The Official "Damned Trump" Thread

[arewethereyet]

So there's a new book on Donald. Are you going to read it?

Mary L. Trump Ph.D.
Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous Man

In this revelatory, authoritative portrait of Donald J. Trump and the toxic family that made him, Mary L. Trump, a trained clinical psychologist and Donald’s only niece, shines a bright light on the dark history of their family in order to explain how her uncle became the man who now threatens the world’s health, economic security, and social fabric.

Mary Trump spent much of her childhood in her grandparents’ large, imposing house in the heart of Queens, New York, where Donald and his four siblings grew up. She describes a nightmare of traumas, destructive relationships, and a tragic combination of neglect and abuse. She explains how specific events and general family patterns created the damaged man who currently occupies the Oval Office, including the strange and harmful relationship between Fred Trump and his two oldest sons, Fred Jr. and Donald.

A firsthand witness to countless holiday meals and interactions, Mary brings an incisive wit and unexpected humor to sometimes grim, often confounding family events. She recounts in unsparing detail everything from her uncle Donald’s place in the family spotlight and Ivana’s penchant for regifting to her grandmother’s frequent injuries and illnesses and the appalling way Donald, Fred Trump’s favorite son, dismissed and derided him when he began to succumb to Alzheimer’s.

Numerous pundits, armchair psychologists, and journalists have sought to parse Donald J. Trump’s lethal flaws. Mary L. Trump has the education, insight, and intimate familiarity needed to reveal what makes Donald, and the rest of her clan, tick. She alone can recount this fascinating, unnerving saga, not just because of her insider’s perspective but also because she is the only Trump willing to tell the truth about one of the world’s most powerful and dysfunctional families.

I won't read it.  It will be more interesting what parts make The Donald shit a brick.  That will be most telling. We'll be able to find out on Twitter soon enough.  Either Trump and/or his idiot sons will be having Twitfits.

[Fireball]

^ Twitfits from the nitwits!

[Fake Messiah]

Joe Shapiro — the man who took Trump’s SATs for him

The University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School is being thrust into the spotlight after it was alleged that President Donald Trump was admitted after his sister did his homework for him and a friend named Joe Shapiro took his SATs.

“To hedge his bets he enlisted Joe Shapiro, a smart kid with a reputation for being a good test taker, to take his SATs for him. That was much easier to pull off in the days before photo IDs and computerized records. Donald, who never lacked for funds, paid his buddy well,” Mary Trump’s book details.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/joe-sha...r-him/amp/

[Fake Messiah]

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, who testified in the impeachment inquiry into President Trump, is retiring from the Army after being bullied by Trump for saying the truth in court.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...-from-army

[Bucky Ball]

So there's a new book on Donald. Are you going to read it?

I hope to get my hands on a copy. 
Only because Mary was the source of many of the financial documents which were used in the large NYT expose' of Trump and Trump Inc. 
She took copies of documents (which she had a right to), from the attorney's office, who had represented herself and her brother in a (fraudulent, it turns out) settlement with her aunts and uncles in which the actual value of the (Fred Sr.'s) estate was undervalued, (by a factor of 20), thus cheating her and her brother of many millions of dollars. 

These facts will be a small part of the legal proceedings which Trump will find himself faced with, when he is out of office, if all the crookery he perpetrated is not somehow outside the statute of limitations.

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Joe Shapiro — the man who took Trump’s SATs for him

The University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School is being thrust into the spotlight after it was alleged that President Donald Trump was admitted after his sister did his homework for him and a friend named Joe Shapiro took his SATs.

“To hedge his bets he enlisted Joe Shapiro, a smart kid with a reputation for being a good test taker, to take his SATs for him. That was much easier to pull off in the days before photo IDs and computerized records. Donald, who never lacked for funds, paid his buddy well,” Mary Trump’s book details.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/joe-sha...r-him/amp/

The thing is, the WHOLE (Wharton) thing is based on a lie. 
The "Wharton School" is understood by anyone in the financial field to be the GRADUATE SCHOOL at Penn. 
Trump has always PRETENDED that he "went to Wharton". He went to Penn as an undergrad ... he did not attend graduate school ... thus the entire business of his "going to Wharton" is a fiction he invented for his little self.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

So there's a new book on Donald. Are you going to read it?

I hope to get my hands on a copy. 
Only because Mary was the source of many of the financial documents which were used in the large NYT expose' of Trump and Trump Inc. 
She took copies of documents (which she had a right to), from the attorney's office, who had represented herself and her brother in a (fraudulent, it turns out) settlement with her aunts and uncles in which the actual value of the (Fred Sr.'s) estate was undervalued, (by a factor of 20), thus cheating her and her brother of many millions of dollars. 

These facts will be a small part of the legal proceedings which Trump will find himself faced with, when he is out of office, if all the crookery he perpetrated is not somehow outside the statute of limitations.

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The thing is, the WHOLE (Wharton) thing is based on a lie. 
The "Wharton School" is understood by anyone in the financial field to be the GRADUATE SCHOOL at Penn. 
Trump has always PRETENDED that he "went to Wharton". He went to Penn as an undergrad ... he did not attend graduate school ... thus the entire business of his "going to Wharton" is a fiction he invented for his little self.

Not so fast.  Wharton awards both graduate and undergraduate degrees, and Trump did indeed graduate from Wharton in 1968. So, he 'went to Wharton'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wharton_Sc...nnsylvania


Boru

[Bucky Ball]

I hope to get my hands on a copy. 
Only because Mary was the source of many of the financial documents which were used in the large NYT expose' of Trump and Trump Inc. 
She took copies of documents (which she had a right to), from the attorney's office, who had represented herself and her brother in a (fraudulent, it turns out) settlement with her aunts and uncles in which the actual value of the (Fred Sr.'s) estate was undervalued, (by a factor of 20), thus cheating her and her brother of many millions of dollars. 

These facts will be a small part of the legal proceedings which Trump will find himself faced with, when he is out of office, if all the crookery he perpetrated is not somehow outside the statute of limitations.

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The thing is, the WHOLE (Wharton) thing is based on a lie. 
The "Wharton School" is understood by anyone in the financial field to be the GRADUATE SCHOOL at Penn. 
Trump has always PRETENDED that he "went to Wharton". He went to Penn as an undergrad ... he did not attend graduate school ... thus the entire business of his "going to Wharton" is a fiction he invented for his little self.

Not so fast.  Wharton awards both graduate and undergraduate degrees, and Trump did indeed graduate from Wharton in 1968. So, he 'went to Wharton'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wharton_Sc...nnsylvania


Boru

No ... he did not graduate from the famed "professional" program they are well known for. What you're doing is exactly what Trump intended ... pretend he "went to Wharton" when in fact it generally means something ELSE to financial professionals. Technically they do have an undergraduate program. That's not what they are known for. They are known for their Master's level programs, not their undergrad programs. 

"Wharton's MBA program is ranked No. 1 in the United States according to Forbes[] and No. 1 in the United States according to the 2020 U.S. News & World Report ranking. Meanwhile, Wharton's MBA for Executives and undergraduate programs are ranked No. 3 and No. 1 in the United States respectively by U.S. News.[7][8] MBA graduates of Wharton earn an average $159,815 first year base pay not including bonuses, the highest of all the leading schools. Wharton's MBA program is tied for the highest in the United States with an average  score of 732 (97th percentile) for its entering class. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wharton_Sc...nnsylvania

What other undergraduate touts the fact they went to "Wharton" ?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Not so fast.  Wharton awards both graduate and undergraduate degrees, and Trump did indeed graduate from Wharton in 1968. So, he 'went to Wharton'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wharton_Sc...nnsylvania


Boru

No ... he did not graduate from the famed "professional" program they are well known for. What you're doing is exactly what Trump intended ... pretend he "went to Wharton" when in fact it generally means something ELSE to financial professionals. Technically they do have an undergraduate program. That's not what they are known for. They are known for their Master's level programs, not their undergrad programs. 

"Wharton's MBA program is ranked No. 1 in the United States according to Forbes[] and No. 1 in the United States according to the 2020 U.S. News & World Report ranking. Meanwhile, Wharton's MBA for Executives and undergraduate programs are ranked No. 3 and No. 1 in the United States respectively by U.S. News.[7][8] MBA graduates of Wharton earn an average $159,815 first year base pay not including bonuses, the highest of all the leading schools. Wharton's MBA program is tied for the highest in the United States with an average  score of 732 (97th percentile) for its entering class. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wharton_Sc...nnsylvania

What other undergraduate touts the fact they went to "Wharton" ?

From your excerpt (emphasis added):

Meanwhile, Wharton's MBA for Executives and undergraduate programs are ranked No. 3 and No. 1 in the United States respectively by U.S. News

Like or not, Trump isn't lying when he says he 'went to Wharton'.  He graduated from the most prestigious undergraduate business school in the US.

I would imagine, as hard as the Wharton School is to get into, there are more than a few undergrads who name drop it.

Boru

[Bucky Ball]

No ... he did not graduate from the famed "professional" program they are well known for. What you're doing is exactly what Trump intended ... pretend he "went to Wharton" when in fact it generally means something ELSE to financial professionals. Technically they do have an undergraduate program. That's not what they are known for. They are known for their Master's level programs, not their undergrad programs. 

"Wharton's MBA program is ranked No. 1 in the United States according to Forbes[] and No. 1 in the United States according to the 2020 U.S. News & World Report ranking. Meanwhile, Wharton's MBA for Executives and undergraduate programs are ranked No. 3 and No. 1 in the United States respectively by U.S. News.[7][8] MBA graduates of Wharton earn an average $159,815 first year base pay not including bonuses, the highest of all the leading schools. Wharton's MBA program is tied for the highest in the United States with an average  score of 732 (97th percentile) for its entering class. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wharton_Sc...nnsylvania

What other undergraduate touts the fact they went to "Wharton" ?

From your excerpt (emphasis added):

Meanwhile, Wharton's MBA for Executives and undergraduate programs are ranked No. 3 and No. 1 in the United States respectively by U.S. News

Like or not, Trump isn't lying when he says he 'went to Wharton'.  He graduated from the most prestigious undergraduate business school in the US.

I would imagine, as hard as the Wharton School is to get into, there are more than a few undergrads who name drop it.

Boru

He is dishonestly attempting to make people think he went to their Grad School, which is what they're famous for. 
The question arose in many places when Trump said he was a Wharton grad. 
Obviously, if that many people understand it to mean the grad school, it's a valid point, AND we know he was trying to mislead the elctorate. 

"My entire country, the Philippines,is in a heated debate of what 'Wharton graduate' implies because one of our presidentiables said that he is a 'Wharton graduate'. They think that 'Wharton graduate' automatically means 'Wharton MBA graduate.' This presidential candidate only finished a Bachelor's degree in Wharton, not an MBA, and he has been accused of being misleading as to the pedigree of his educational attainment. My question, to be precise, is: Is it wrong to say you are a Wharton graduate even if you finished only a Bachelor's degree? When you hear 'Wharton graduate' do you automatically think that that person has an MBA? " 

"But there's less here than meets the eye. Trump did graduate from the Wharton School of business at the University of Pennsylvania, an Ivy League college. But Trump did not get an MBA from Wharton; he has a much less prestigious undergraduate degree. He was a transfer student who arrived at Wharton after two years at Fordham University, which U.S. News & World Report currently ranks 66th among national universities"
https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/c...story.html

[Fake Messiah]

In what kind of a country even the president can't get the most basic education in mathematics?



Oh no! Not the shithole country?!