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Why are the religious so sensitive?
#31
RE: Why are the religious so sensitive?
Some one said that I need to display evidence of God if I say I know there is a God there have been pleanty of times where God has proved himself to me. Here are some of the times.

ABORIGINAL MAN
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On morning I got up and walled into the hall and I heard a voice say "How would you like to be stabbed in the valley". The valley was the tough end of town. I had planned to go into the valley that day so felt a bit scared. I decided to go any way to ask people out to church. The first person I met was an aboriginal man I asked him if he would like to come out to church. He said "No, I am an athiest", I just said fine and hoped he would change his mind. He said to me "This is why I am an athiest", he pulled open his shirt and showed me scars up and down his front. He told me, "I was stabbed and attacked by a mad man in the valley some years ago, and spent months recovering in hospital". I was asked "How would I like it?", God knew the man had not apreciated the attack, so he did not blame him for his initial bitterness towards God. Latter I shared this story with him, and he came out to church and became a christian.

BOOD
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I though wouldn't it be cool to create a dinosour. So I prayed and asked if God would let me do it. The word "bood" entered my mind. So I looked it up on a google search. The word bood I found out was a gentle way to say no. So I knew from the voice, or word in my head it was no for now.

BITTEN
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I was trying to convert two Mormons to Christianity one said he was German I wanted to speak in toungues in German. I gave it a go. But it did not work. So I just kept telling him, ask, pray, seek God for your self, ask. I went home and was in bed when I felt something touch me, and say "Bitten", tell him "bitten". I was scared thinking I will just make an idiot of my self again. But a year latter I discoveded Bitten was the German word for ask, plead, and pray; what I had been trying to get him to do. It said aditional to that "I love you, I will be here for you".

SEX SITE
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As an example of answered prayer. I had a sex site continually send me pictures of semi naked chicks to my myspace account, it started to anoy me so I thought maybe if I sued them they would stop. I was not sure about it as I did not want to be harsh with them, and give them a bad impression of who God was. So I prayed about it. Some minutes latter I started my normal rutine of trying to convert Muslums to Jesus I would always randomly select a verse believing it was guided by the Holy Spirit. This day I did this and it came up with:

No, already it is altogether a defect in you, that you have lawsuits one with another. Why not rather take wrong? Why not rather be defrauded? - 1Co 6:7

So I knew instantly that God was not wanting any law suite.

There are more
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I would be typing all day long there are others I just can't be bothered.
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#32
RE: Why are the religious so sensitive?
None of these are evidence of god. Do theists actually understand what evidence actually means?

Studiable material! Something that can be studied, something that can be detected. What you've mentioned above is NOT evidence.

There just stories, nothing more.

We need evidence not stories.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#33
RE: Why are the religious so sensitive?
Quote:Some one said that I need to display evidence of God if I say I know there is a God there have been pleanty of times where God has proved himself to me. Here are some of the times.


Personal experiences NEVER qualify as scientific evidence for anything, including God. Nice try, but you failed.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin

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#34
RE: Why are the religious so sensitive?
Life is not a science experiment, there is a thing called trust. Telling the truth, either a) you are calling me a liar or b) I have proof that God exists. I said, i have proof, to me it is proof. To any one who is not accusing me of being a liar it is proof. You have trust issues, it is nothing to do with not being provable that is just plain bull shit. Besides my faith commands me to tell the truth at all times, yours incodentially does not.
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#35
RE: Why are the religious so sensitive?
Given only those two options then you are lying! But I don't meant that as nastily as it sounds.

You have no proof that god exists, you have an *opinion* that he exists and he has spoken to you.
To me you are telling me stories (whether you believe them or not doesn't matter). What you "hear" in your head is closed to me and is only available to me through your biased interpretation (just as anything I tell you is going to be altered by my interpretation).

You may have other stories but there is nothing in the ones you posted that could not be explained in other ways or just coincidence. For example, I don't speak German but I have heard enough German words over my lifetime to know roughly what a few of them mean.
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#36
RE: Why are the religious so sensitive?
(September 11, 2008 at 6:39 am)FutureAndAHope Wrote: Life is not a science experiment, there is a thing called trust. Telling the truth, either a) you are calling me a liar or b) I have proof that God exists. I said, i have proof, to me it is proof. To any one who is not accusing me of being a liar it is proof. You have trust issues, it is nothing to do with not being provable that is just plain bull shit. Besides my faith commands me to tell the truth at all times, yours incodentially does not.

Then we're calling you a liar or delusional. I've seen people faint because a holy healer has touched them. Basically your high on a god pill and your mind is playing tricks because you deeply believe.

Have you ever heard reports where someone is captive for so long they become passionatly in love with their captors? I can't remember the term. But basically imagine a cult where the leader makes the followers think and do anything.

There are even scientologists who have first hand account of L. Ron Hubbard performing and having supernatural powers. And these people are still alive today.

Did they get devine inspiration?

You have offered no Scientific evidence. Just hearsay and what not.

Show me some proof that can be tested and observed by anybody in unbias conditions.
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#37
RE: Why are the religious so sensitive?
(September 11, 2008 at 6:39 am)FutureAndAHope Wrote: Life is not a science experiment, there is a thing called trust. Telling the truth, either a) you are calling me a liar or b) I have proof that God exists. I said, i have proof, to me it is proof. To any one who is not accusing me of being a liar it is proof. You have trust issues, it is nothing to do with not being provable that is just plain bull shit. Besides my faith commands me to tell the truth at all times, yours incodentially does not.

Well with only two options I'd say your a liar.

Your proof is not relevent in the eyes of science. It's not proof it's just stories, It's not about trust, it's about what supports your claims, In other words - EVIDENCE! It has nothing to do with trust.

You have nothing to show us and so we dismiss your claims as false due to lack of evidence. Your evidence is not evidence at all. it's just beliefs.

We need evidence NOT stories.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#38
RE: Why are the religious so sensitive?
(September 11, 2008 at 6:39 am)FutureAndAHope Wrote: You have trust issues, it is nothing to do with not being provable that is just plain bull shit. Besides my faith commands me to tell the truth at all times, yours incodentially does not.

Getting a bit hot headed are we?

Firstly - Carlm down!

Secondly - We do not run under religious rules. We cannot take anyones word for it. We need evidence not stories. It isn't a fact of trust issues, It's a fact of evidence.
You have no evidence and so your religious claims have been dismissed.

Proving your claims means everything if you start blasting it at people!
Truth and trust is not whats needed. It's evidence.

And cool down a bit ok?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#39
RE: Why are the religious so sensitive?
(September 11, 2008 at 12:21 pm)Brick-top Wrote: Have you ever heard reports where someone is captive for so long they become passionatly in love with their captors? I can't remember the term. But basically imagine a cult where the leader makes the followers think and do anything.

I'm fairly certain it's Stockholm Syndrome
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin

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#40
RE: Why are the religious so sensitive?
(September 11, 2008 at 6:39 am)FutureAndAHope Wrote: Besides my faith commands me to tell the truth at all times, yours incodentially does not.
I meant to comment on this yesterday but forgot.

I tell the truth because it is the *right* thing to do. Everyone who knows me knows I am trustworthy & honest.

Hopefully you wont now try to come up with the "morals are from god" argument as a response!
(September 11, 2008 at 9:50 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote: I'm fairly certain it's Stockholm Syndrome
It is. I was trying to remember the name of it too and could only remember it was named after a European city!
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