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RE: I lost my Soul
July 31, 2017 at 9:45 am
(July 31, 2017 at 8:36 am)Drich Wrote: (July 29, 2017 at 2:56 pm)Cyberman Wrote: No mirrors in your house, huh?
What I saw was me, which is why my hope was to have that person experience what I did. So that his heart may be humbled from all that he thinks he knows.
I don't care. Lifes too short and i genunly dont care.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: I lost my Soul
July 31, 2017 at 10:25 am
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2017 at 3:56 pm by Mister Agenda.
Edit Reason: Forgot to say 'don't'
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Godscreated Wrote:Do I need to go on?
You need to show that the people he was taking to didn't already believe in hell for it to remotely be a counter to what I said. Hell is a great threat against people who already believe in it.
Godscreated Wrote:The Bible is the word of God and is faultless, you put the above statement in just in case I gave you some verses about Jesus and what He says about condemnation to an ever lasting hell.
Did your wire to God tell you to be so uncharitable in speculating about my motives? I don't even know how many times I've read the NT. I'm familiar with what Jesus has to say on the matter, which is why I was confident you wouldn't find an example of Jesus threatening people who don't believe in hell, with hell. Here's the thing about your God connection claim: once you've said the omnipotent and omniscient creator of the universe talks to you, it's reasonable to expect better from you than we've been getting, if we take your claim seriously.
Godscreated Wrote:Read John 3:16,
2nd Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill His promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish.
That has nothing to do with an eternal hell being justified.
Godscreated Wrote:It's the atheist here who called these people simple minded goat herders that couldn't understand the simplest of things. Are you contradicting them.
GC
I don't know who 'the atheist here' is, but if they actually said that, I am contradicting it. They may not have been able to figure out the moon reflects the sun's light on their own, but they were certainly capable of understanding the concept if it was explained to them.
Drich Wrote:or he could just throw him in Hell forever..
why does anyone care what happens to Satan?
If Satan were real, he still doesn't deserve infinite punishment. Maybe more than anyone else, but not infinite punishment for his finite crimes. And if a third of the angels in heaven rebelled, how great can heaven be, and how can we be sure of eternal salvation in heaven, when it's possible to be in heaven and rebel against it?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: I lost my Soul
July 31, 2017 at 11:12 am
(July 31, 2017 at 8:36 am)Drich Wrote: (July 29, 2017 at 2:56 pm)Cyberman Wrote: No mirrors in your house, huh?
What I saw was me, which is why my hope was to have that person experience what I did. So that his heart may be humbled from all that he thinks he knows.
(July 29, 2017 at 3:47 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: If I were an omnipotent god, I would put Ole Scratch in charge of maintaining heaven's plumbing. Ain't nothin' like shoveling a little shit to straighten a boy out.
or he could just throw him in Hell forever..
why does anyone care what happens to Satan?
Nobody does, Dipshit. You critical thinking skills continue to amaze.
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RE: I lost my Soul
July 31, 2017 at 11:22 am
(July 31, 2017 at 10:25 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: If Satan were real, he still doesn't deserve infinite punishment. Maybe more than anyone else, but not infinite punishment for his finite crimes. And if a third of the angels in heaven rebelled, how great can heaven be, and how can we be sure of eternal salvation in heaven, when it's possible to be in heaven and rebel against it?
And in the context of eternity, how long before Biblegod tires of the John 3:16 crowd and sends the lot of 'em downstairs for lulz?
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RE: I lost my Soul
July 31, 2017 at 12:10 pm
(July 25, 2017 at 2:40 pm)GoneGuy Wrote: Basically I was a Christian, or at least I thought I was. I kept on sinning and just like it says if you blaspheme the Holy spirit its unforgivable. I ignored his promptings for years and then out of nowhere something in me was different. Literally in an instant. I have been separated from Gods presence here on earth and I cant even describe what it's like, but let me tell you that He loves everyone very much. Its like I don't exist anymore. My spirit's GONE. dead. I'm literally just existing in the flesh with no Love in me. I know I'm going to hell, and its just like the bible says those who reject him will be aware of their coming judgement. I cant stress it enough how important it is to Accept Jesus. Having no soul is like complete apathy, but not really because I cant feel anything. I just process everything around me. No enjoyment, satisfaction, nothing good. Just like the bible says everything good comes from God and it is so hard to describe what having no love, faith, or hope in you at all is like. I just exist, but I don't. I'm just waiting, and I'm aware that I'm going to hell, but it doesn't bother me, because only through love can you truly care about anything. All that's in my heart is wickidness. You know how when you think about past memories or do things you like and you get this good feeling, I have nothing. The dead know nothing. Its indescribable. All I can say is I cant stress enough how much Jesus loves all of you, and that he accepts you just how you are right now. If you can Love at all even a tiny bit, that's all he needs. Trust me when I say anything in this life is nothing compared to what will be waiting for you in heaven. I have no intuition anymore, I have no identity, and I don't mean that to sound dramatic I mean literally. Its like things I used to enjoy and hate I remember that I did like the, but I cant feel it. Nothing, youd think I would freak out, but without a soul it doesn't matter. I cant freak out, because that would require some sort of goodness to actually care. I know it sounds just like depression and apathy, but its not. Its just NOTHING.
I'm so sorry you're going through this.
If you haven't already, please counsel with a psychologist for your mental health, and with a pastor for spiritual reassurance.
God loves you more than you can ever, ever imagine. Please don't listen to the voice inside of you that says He doesn't. It's a lie.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: I lost my Soul
July 31, 2017 at 12:28 pm
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2017 at 12:33 pm by Whateverist.)
(July 31, 2017 at 12:10 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (July 25, 2017 at 2:40 pm)GoneGuy Wrote: Basically I was a Christian, or at least I thought I was. I kept on sinning and just like it says if you blaspheme the Holy spirit its unforgivable. I ignored his promptings for years and then out of nowhere something in me was different. Literally in an instant. I have been separated from Gods presence here on earth and I cant even describe what it's like, but let me tell you that He loves everyone very much. Its like I don't exist anymore. My spirit's GONE. dead. I'm literally just existing in the flesh with no Love in me. I know I'm going to hell, and its just like the bible says those who reject him will be aware of their coming judgement. I cant stress it enough how important it is to Accept Jesus. Having no soul is like complete apathy, but not really because I cant feel anything. I just process everything around me. No enjoyment, satisfaction, nothing good. Just like the bible says everything good comes from God and it is so hard to describe what having no love, faith, or hope in you at all is like. I just exist, but I don't. I'm just waiting, and I'm aware that I'm going to hell, but it doesn't bother me, because only through love can you truly care about anything. All that's in my heart is wickidness. You know how when you think about past memories or do things you like and you get this good feeling, I have nothing. The dead know nothing. Its indescribable. All I can say is I cant stress enough how much Jesus loves all of you, and that he accepts you just how you are right now. If you can Love at all even a tiny bit, that's all he needs. Trust me when I say anything in this life is nothing compared to what will be waiting for you in heaven. I have no intuition anymore, I have no identity, and I don't mean that to sound dramatic I mean literally. Its like things I used to enjoy and hate I remember that I did like the, but I cant feel it. Nothing, youd think I would freak out, but without a soul it doesn't matter. I cant freak out, because that would require some sort of goodness to actually care. I know it sounds just like depression and apathy, but its not. Its just NOTHING.
I'm so sorry you're going through this.
If you haven't already, please counsel with a psychologist for your mental health, and with a pastor for spiritual reassurance.
God loves you more than you can ever, ever imagine. Please don't listen to the voice inside of you that says He doesn't. It's a lie.
I and a lot of others had this reaction but it turns out to be a verbatim copy of a post from some apologist site. Not sure where but it was found and cited here. I don't think we have to worry about this guy.
(July 26, 2017 at 10:29 am)drfuzzy Wrote: In the thread "Can a Christian Lose His Salvation" this OP was copy-pasted by Jack Russell. Wyrd of God noted that this is an old xtian trope, and a version is available of Reddit.
"A similar version is posted on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/religion/commen...t_my_soul/"
Just another made-up christian tall tale that they think might get people running into a church, begging to be brainwashed.
So no empathy for GoneGuy is necessary. He's just another lying xtian plagiarist.
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RE: I lost my Soul
July 31, 2017 at 1:51 pm
(July 31, 2017 at 11:12 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: (July 31, 2017 at 8:36 am)Drich Wrote: What I saw was me, which is why my hope was to have that person experience what I did. So that his heart may be humbled from all that he thinks he knows.
or he could just throw him in Hell forever..
why does anyone care what happens to Satan?
Nobody does, Dipshit. You critical thinking skills continue to amaze.
so quick to just just because you can... with no thought to any of the number of people who asked or contributed to the evolution of this sub topic.
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RE: I lost my Soul
July 31, 2017 at 2:22 pm
Satan doesn't exist either, No big mystery. No sane person worries about un-evidenced bullshit.
If you had it, we would all believe.
Poor critical thinking and delusions are well evidenced though.
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RE: I lost my Soul
July 31, 2017 at 2:28 pm
(July 31, 2017 at 12:28 pm)Whateverist Wrote: (July 31, 2017 at 12:10 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm so sorry you're going through this.
If you haven't already, please counsel with a psychologist for your mental health, and with a pastor for spiritual reassurance.
God loves you more than you can ever, ever imagine. Please don't listen to the voice inside of you that says He doesn't. It's a lie.
I and a lot of others had this reaction but it turns out to be a verbatim copy of a post from some apologist site. Not sure where but it was found and cited here. I don't think we have to worry about this guy.
(July 26, 2017 at 10:29 am)drfuzzy Wrote: In the thread "Can a Christian Lose His Salvation" this OP was copy-pasted by Jack Russell. Wyrd of God noted that this is an old xtian trope, and a version is available of Reddit.
"A similar version is posted on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/religion/commen...t_my_soul/"
Just another made-up christian tall tale that they think might get people running into a church, begging to be brainwashed.
So no empathy for GoneGuy is necessary. He's just another lying xtian plagiarist.
Thank you for letting me know. I guess GC was right.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: I lost my Soul
July 31, 2017 at 7:12 pm
(July 31, 2017 at 10:25 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Godscreated Wrote:Do I need to go on?
You need to show that the people he was taking to didn't already believe in hell for it to remotely be a counter to what I said. Hell is a great threat against people who already believe in it.
I see you are running out of intelligent responses, you've gone to the ridiculous.
Godscreated Wrote:The Bible is the word of God and is faultless, you put the above statement in just in case I gave you some verses about Jesus and what He says about condemnation to an ever lasting hell.
MisterA Wrote:Did your wire to God tell you to be so uncharitable in speculating about my motives? I don't even know how many times I've read the NT. I'm familiar with what Jesus has to say on the matter, which is why I was confident you wouldn't find an example of Jesus threatening people who don't believe in hell, with hell. Here's the thing about your God connection claim: once you've said the omnipotent and omniscient creator of the universe talks to you, it's reasonable to expect better from you than we've been getting, if we take your claim seriously.
I saw your motive very clearly. Whether they believed in hell or not doesn't even come into the discussion, you are dodging my response because you do not know the scriptures that well.
Godscreated Wrote:Read John 3:16,
2nd Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill His promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish.
MisterA Wrote:That has nothing to do with an eternal hell being justified.
Just because you do not like thinking about the possibility of hell doesn't mean hell is not justified. And let's say this also, whether hell is justified or not you can't change the fact it is real and a place all the lost will be. The verses has very thing to do with justification, it's not my fault you can't see the reasoning.
Godscreated Wrote:It's the atheist here who called these people simple minded goat herders that couldn't understand the simplest of things. Are you contradicting them.
GC
MisterA Wrote:I don't know who 'the atheist here' is, but if they actually said that, I am contradicting it. They may not have been able to figure out the moon reflects the sun's light on their own, but they were certainly capable of understanding the concept if it was explained to them.
Almost all the atheists here especially the hard nosed ones. How do you know that they would have understood and even if they would have it doesn't matter because god is more concerned about the eternal destination of people than give a science lesson.[/quote]
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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