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No Trans In The Military Says Trump
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(August 7, 2017 at 7:25 pm)Jesster Wrote: Then it sounds like it isn't your problem, benny. Maybe you should go deal with your own problems and let us deal with ours. If you don't want to support someone, you could at least move out of their way.

In whose way am I?  It's my opinion that people now are far too entitled, and that this is a product of our society's efficiency.  The goal seems to be to cater to everyone's individual needs more and more, until a balance is reached between the economic efficiencies of the Western world, and the inefficiencies of letting everyone make the society around zim dance to zer demands.

(August 7, 2017 at 9:21 pm)Divinity Wrote: Why don't you just fuck off with your own little special snowflake status, and stop bitching about people trying to maintain their right to fight for their own goddamn country?
Too much focus on rights, not enough focus on contributions. If a transgender person is a kick-ass soldier, I'm all for them. But part of being a kick-ass soldier is giving as much as possible, and not gumming up the works by making special demands.

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"Wah!  Look at me!  Look at me!"  That's all you're basically fucking saying.  You just want attention, because otherwise you'd have just shut the fuck up and ignored this topic.  But nope.  You decided to come here and whore for some goddamn attention.  Maybe your mother should have paid more attention to you so you wouldn't be such a whiny little twat.
You can project onto me whatever attitudes or background you want, but it doesn't bother me much. The fact is that entitlement is wayyyy out of control, especially in the West and particularly in the US, and that is why 1) there's a fucking Orangutan in the white house and 2) China is almost for sure, like 99.9% chance, going to eclipse the United states as both the strongest country in the world and the most important one in history, and in our lifetimes.

The millenial's rewrite of Kennedy's famous line: "Ask not what you can do for your country, but what entitlements, special recognitions, and impractical social considerations you can manipulate your country into giving you."

(August 8, 2017 at 11:50 am)Shell B Wrote: [Image: latest?cb=20110628015600]
Like anyone else, I can get mad when I want to wear it. So for the purposes of this thread-- yeah! Smile
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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
I think we should have certain rules for the White House:

No Narcissistic arseholes.
No Russian Collaborators


Add any others you can think of.

My brain is running on emergency backups at the moment.
Dying to live, living to die.
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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(August 8, 2017 at 4:55 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Too much focus on rights, not enough focus on contributions.  If a transgender person is a kick-ass soldier, I'm all for them.  But part of being a kick-ass soldier is giving as much as possible, and not gumming up the works by making special demands.

Nobody is demanding special rights. They're just demanding the same rights that others have, much like when black people and gays petitioned for the same right to serve in the military. So if you're okay with a transgender person being a "kick-ass" soldier, I'm not so sure where your problem actually lies. Stop searching for conflicts that aren't there and maybe you'll be able to calm the fuck down.

You can also take your own advice here if you just can't handle this:

(August 7, 2017 at 7:09 pm)bennyboy Wrote: FUCK OFFFFFFFFF!!!
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(August 8, 2017 at 5:09 pm)Jesster Wrote:
(August 8, 2017 at 4:55 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Too much focus on rights, not enough focus on contributions.  If a transgender person is a kick-ass soldier, I'm all for them.  But part of being a kick-ass soldier is giving as much as possible, and not gumming up the works by making special demands.

Nobody is demanding special rights. They're just demanding the same rights that others have, much like when black people and gays petitioned for the same right to serve in the military. So if you're okay with a transgender person being a "kick-ass" soldier, I'm not so sure where your problem actually lies. Stop searching for conflicts that aren't there and maybe you'll be able to calm the fuck down.

The problem is that rights are not well-defined, and people will push the envelope for ever.  Look at Canada, where a misuse of gender pronouns is now legislated as a hate crime.  In language, there's a serious movement to establish very many new gender pronouns in order to recognize every individual's "right" to have their unique place on various sexual and identity axes represented fully-- and at this rate, it will be a crime not to embrace this bullshit.

Fuck it, I'm officially coming out as a bensexual, and from now on, refer to me as follows: "bennyboy is an asshole.  Bene should not assert benis special snowflake status because nobody gives a shit about benim.

(August 8, 2017 at 5:05 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I think we should have certain rules for the White House:

No Narcissistic arseholes.
No Russian Collaborators


Add any others you can think of.

My brain is running on emergency backups at the moment.

No fucking orangutans.
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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(August 8, 2017 at 5:26 pm)bennyboy Wrote: The problem is that rights are not well-defined, and people will push the envelope for ever.  Look at Canada, where a misuse of gender pronouns is now legislated as a hate crime.  In language, there's a serious movement to establish very many new gender pronouns in order to recognize every individual's "right" to have their unique place on various sexual axes represented fully-- and at this rate, it will be a crime not to embrace this bullshit.

What the fuck are you even talking about here? You're bringing up things that aren't even being discussed here. I will go over the issue with you again in case you missed it.

A: Some people are allowed into the military without question
B: Other people who are just as capable of serving may be denied this same allowance
C: This thread is addressing an attempt to keep things as they are, which currently allows both group A and B

Let me know where you are getting confused.

(August 8, 2017 at 5:26 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Fuck it, I'm officially coming out as a bensexual, and from now on, refer to me as follows: "bennyboy is an asshole.  Bene should not assert benis special snowflake status because nobody gives a shit about benim.

Have fun with your temper tantrum then.
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
This is an equal rights issue, it is not a group looking for special treatment.
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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
I can sympathize. The entitlement/PC culture gets on my nerves too. But there's been no problem I have seen with trans folks in the military. If providing them certain treatments is too impractical or not good for the efficiency of the military, then just say they are not allowed to seek those out while in service. I see no reason as of now for an all out trans ban.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(August 8, 2017 at 5:32 pm)Jesster Wrote:
(August 8, 2017 at 5:26 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Fuck it, I'm officially coming out as a bensexual, and from now on, refer to me as follows: "bennyboy is an asshole.  Bene should not assert benis special snowflake status because nobody gives a shit about benim.

Have fun with your temper tantrum then.
You are not properly respecting my bensexuality. Calling my expression of my sexuality a "temper tantrum" is demeaning and inappropriate. You are benphobic, and I am going to sue you for everything you've got!
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I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(August 8, 2017 at 5:26 pm)bennyboy Wrote: ...

The problem is that rights are not well-defined, and people will push the envelope for ever.  Look at Canada, where a misuse of gender pronouns is now legislated as a hate crime.  In language, there's a serious movement to establish very many new gender pronouns in order to recognize every individual's "right" to have their unique place on various sexual and identity axes represented fully-- and at this rate, it will be a crime not to embrace this bullshit.




Umm no. The bolded is flat out wrong. To borrow a quote from the Canadian Bar Association: "This is a misunderstanding of human rights and hate crimes legislation." I've got more quotes to demonstrate your wrongness should you be interested.

Go ahead and be opposed to special treatment of snowflakes all you want. Just don't use your faulty understanding of Canadian law to justify your general bitchiness about SOGI issues.

Forgot to add, I'm a proud Canadian
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