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Poll: Is there Evidence to Convict
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Yes: the testimony is Evidence
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No: the testimony is not evidence
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Evidence to Convict?
RE: Evidence to Convict?
You don't need to be debated because you have shown your hand . You need to be debunked because that's all your statements are worth.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Evidence to Convict?
(August 4, 2017 at 9:33 pm)Astonished Wrote:
(August 4, 2017 at 9:20 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I still have an open invitation to anyone, who would like to discuss/debate The topic in more detail.  
Now by this I mean actual discussion, not just insults, declaring your opinion as fact, and more insults.  You will need to demonstrate this critical thinking you keep talking about.

All you need to do is show enough interest to start a thread.

Now do you want to keep sniping and straw manning me Astonished

There's no need to straw man you, there are 16 pages of you proving my point in here. So what exact value would there be in creating a thread to discuss this when you've proven you're incapable of making any productive contribution to it?

I only gave a description of what I believe, not why.  I appears that you are more talk than thinking.  

Insult... declare victory.... deny that the other said anything...
I'm starting to notice a pattern here.  And you think this makes you look smart.    ROFLOL
I think I'm done wasting my time with you as well, unless you want to discuss.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: Evidence to Convict?
(August 4, 2017 at 10:42 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(August 4, 2017 at 9:33 pm)Astonished Wrote: There's no need to straw man you, there are 16 pages of you proving my point in here. So what exact value would there be in creating a thread to discuss this when you've proven you're incapable of making any productive contribution to it?

I only gave a description of what I believe, not why.  I appears that you are more talk than thinking.  

Insult... declare victory.... deny that the other said anything...
I'm starting to notice a pattern here.  And you think this makes you look smart.    ROFLOL
I think I'm done wasting my time with you as well, unless you want to discuss.

So rather than acknowledge any of the points made, you stoically remain convinced of your presuppositions because if you didn't, you couldn't justify continuing to support your ridiculous beliefs. Gotcha. But I'll humor you. If you really aren't just a coward trying to shift focus, why not start another thread yourself since this whole thing is so important to you and no one else? Since you weren't brave enough to do that the first time, evidently.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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RE: Evidence to Convict?
I like how saying over and over, that I'm not going to debate here, to start a thread and we discuss and debate the reasons.  Is twisted into I'm a coward trying to shift focus, and avoid reason to hold onto my presuppositions.

A fine example of atheist logic or rhetoric ( take your pick).
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: Evidence to Convict?
Quote:Expose and debunk.. declare victory.... because the other never says anything of value ...

There fixed this
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Evidence to Convict?
(August 4, 2017 at 11:00 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I like how saying over and over, that I'm not going to debate here, to start a thread and we discuss and debate the reasons.  Is twisted into I'm a coward trying to shift focus, and avoid reason to hold onto my presuppositions.

A fine example of atheist logic or rhetoric ( take your pick).

A fine example of theistic projection of their own faults onto others because of their own insecurities. You could be a textbook case brought to life, brotha.

This subject only matters to you, dingus. You want to defend your case, and show that you're not just a naive or flatly ignorant zealot, by all means, prove it here or make another thread and prove it there. You've been slapped upside the head over and over here with why you're completely and utterly wrong, so really, there's nothing more to discuss unless you want to actually present your side of the debate (which I can provide a youtube video to debunk if you ever decide to give it a go, so I don't have to waste any more of my time; your continued refusal to do so, and to try and put it on us when it's already been presented, is just downright stupid of you at this point, on top of cowardly.)
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

---

There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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RE: Evidence to Convict?
Quote:I like how saying over and over, that I'm not going to debate here, to start a thread and we discuss and debate the reasons.  Is twisted into I'm a coward trying to shift focus, and avoid reason to hold onto my presuppositions.

A fine example of atheist logic or rhetoric ( take your pick).

I like how everything you just said is false like everything else on this thread. And everything Ash just said is true and has been shown true throughout this thread.

A fine example of theist illogic and  mindless rhetoric
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Evidence to Convict?
(August 4, 2017 at 11:35 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:Expose and debunk.. declare victory.... because the other never says anything of value ...

There fixed this

I recently clarified that the offer to discuss is open to anyone.  If you would like to demonstrate , rather than just pontificate.  Just make a thread. 

Hmm... how will he respond folks...everyone make your guesses.
  • Accept the offer. 
  • A polite and gentlemanly no thank you. 
  • Insult me, make up an excuse to not discuss (likely also about me), declare victory and superiority. 

(August 5, 2017 at 12:00 am)Astonished Wrote:
(August 4, 2017 at 11:00 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I like how saying over and over, that I'm not going to debate here, to start a thread and we discuss and debate the reasons.  Is twisted into I'm a coward trying to shift focus, and avoid reason to hold onto my presuppositions.

A fine example of atheist logic or rhetoric ( take your pick).

A fine example of theistic projection of their own faults onto others because of their own insecurities. You could be a textbook case brought to life, brotha.

This subject only matters to you, dingus. You want to defend your case, and show that you're not just a naive or flatly ignorant zealot, by all means, prove it here or make another thread and prove it there. You've been slapped upside the head over and over here with why you're completely and utterly wrong, so really, there's nothing more to discuss unless you want to actually present your side of the debate (which I can provide a youtube video to debunk if you ever decide to give it a go, so I don't have to waste any more of my time; your continued refusal to do so, and to try and put it on us when it's already been presented, is just downright stupid of you at this point, on top of cowardly.)
I like how you are still trying to make this about me not wanting to discuss. Unbelievable!
I think this is definitely energy. Your just like the others. Time to start only replying to relevant points or that which is on topic.  I may be a little quiet for a while.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: Evidence to Convict?
(August 5, 2017 at 12:34 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(August 4, 2017 at 11:35 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: There fixed this

I recently clarified that the offer to discuss is open to anyone.  If you would like to demonstrate , rather than just pontificate.  Just make a thread. 

Hmm... how will he respond folks...everyone make your guesses.
  • Accept the offer. 
  • A polite and gentlemanly no thank you. 
  • Insult me, make up an excuse to not discuss (likely also about me), declare victory and superiority. 

(August 5, 2017 at 12:00 am)Astonished Wrote: A fine example of theistic projection of their own faults onto others because of their own insecurities. You could be a textbook case brought to life, brotha.

This subject only matters to you, dingus. You want to defend your case, and show that you're not just a naive or flatly ignorant zealot, by all means, prove it here or make another thread and prove it there. You've been slapped upside the head over and over here with why you're completely and utterly wrong, so really, there's nothing more to discuss unless you want to actually present your side of the debate (which I can provide a youtube video to debunk if you ever decide to give it a go, so I don't have to waste any more of my time; your continued refusal to do so, and to try and put it on us when it's already been presented, is just downright stupid of you at this point, on top of cowardly.)

I like how you are still trying to make this about me not wanting to discuss. Unbelievable!
I think this is definitely enough. Your justice the others.

If you think anyone else in this thread is falling for your bullshit, kid, you're truly hopeless. 'Unbelievable' is what we could use to describe anything and everything you've said here.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

---

There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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RE: Evidence to Convict?
So it's been two days now... the police have to release me, without any evidence.  The victim was in critical condition, but now he(and the hospital) have been cleansed of any physical evidence. Just in case.  There are even more witnesses, but they have no facts or information with which to indicate that I am guilty of wrong doing as true.  They are pissed... but it must be irrational, since they have no facts with which to reasonably believe that I did anything. 

See you tomorrow.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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