Elder James Hamula released, excommunicated from LDS Church

[c172]

http://www.ldsliving.com/LDS-Church-Lead...la/s/86071

A new update from our Church leaders. The Church did confirm this action was not carried out due to disillusionment or apostasy.
The First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the LDS Church excommunicated a member of the Quorum of the Seventy on Monday.
Elder James J. Hamula had been a General Authority and member of the Seventy for nine years, since his call in April 2008.
"This morning, James J. Hamula was released as a General Authority Seventy of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, following Church disciplinary action by the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles," said Eric Hawkins, a spokesman for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

[Alex K]

That's very inside baseball to me. Can you give some context?

[Minimalist]

If it wasn't "disillusionment or apostasy" my money is on he was chasing the little kids around with his dick out.

That seems to be a common failing of these religitard fuckers.

[vorlon13]

If it wasn't "disillusionment or apostasy" my money is on he was chasing the little kids around with his dick out.

That seems to be a common failing of these religitard fuckers.

well . . . . 

If running around with his dick out while chasing children is NOT apostasy, then WTF !!!!!






Of course, if the standard and usual level of Mormon befuddlement is in play during administrative actions (LOL, like that doesn't happen HERE) it's possible he has been sacked due to an administrative or clerical fuck up.

[Minimalist]

With the catholicks it seems to be a sacrament!

[vorlon13]

With the catholicks it seems to be a sacrament!

I seriously think the Catholics need to explore consecrating Priest/child relationships.  1500 years worth of not solving the problem suggest the issue is inherent to the faith and God ordained, or at least it is being viewed that way by enough church hierarchy for 15 centuries as to be something they will never be rid of because they don't want to be.

[Minimalist]

I think they are already there.

[vorlon13]

I'm so happy I could just shit my pants !!

I can see Min's cartoon there without having to click on it !!!


PRAISE JESUS !!!!

[Wyrd of Gawd]

I wonder if Hamula will become a god with his own planet and harem in the afterlife now that he's been excommunicated? Maybe he should sue for wrongful termination in order to retain his benefit package.

[vorlon13]

I'll be damned if I know how Mormons can excommunicate for apostasy. Jesus fucking Christ, how can they tell ?? And since literally day one, all but the most recent of their revelations, direct from God (!!!!), have all been received with errors, both gross and subtle, necessitating they all be revised, usually more than once.

Hell, just the Mormon take on marriage has been REMARKABLY changeable over the generations, originally one man one woman, then one man first woman Caucasian all subsequent Native American, then one man and first woman Caucasian and all subsequent wives Causcasian, then that one again EXCEPT it's SECRET this time and YOU CAN'T TELL ANYBODY, and then they are back to one man one (Caucasian) woman and you can be excommunicated if you're still doing any of the ones with more than one wife allowed, and then they keep that one and allow for marriage of a man to subsequent (Caucasian) women IN THE AFTERLIFE, then at some point they keep that version, and then allow Caucasians and non Caucasians to intermarry.

Probably will never be able to pin this part down, but in the early days of one man/multiple wives, they may have allowed some of the resulting surplus men to marry each other. This is one item I just have never seen verified. If allowing some men to marry each other would have freed up their wives for other men to have as subsequent wives*, I can see it happening, but even with the Mormons penchant for keeping records of all kinds of amazing things, this one remains unverified.

Mormon views on divorce have been 'fluid' too. Formal divorces were done, but to further expediency, at least at a certain level and above, abandonment of an 'inconvenient' wife was possible. Brigham Young, for instance, left 2 behind in Council Bluffs, Iowa, when he left for Utah. Yes, I would dearly love to know their names, what happened to them and what the current church leaders might say about their status.

Note: in the earlier days of multiple wives, the Mormon church was very vocal about following Old Testament strictures on the practice to the letter. Of course, by now, you must realize that Mormon church vocalizations about a practice don't have to reflect the churches actual rules about a practice, and of course, just because the Old Testament prohibits a man from marrying 2 sisters, or a mother and daughter, that didn't stop the Mormon church from consecrating such relationships.


*Church leaders at a certain level and higher were able to dissolve marriages between lower ranked couples if the wife was deemed desirable or suitable as a subsequent wife.