Tell us about the dinosaurs

[Minimalist]

Creationists should not be surprised when rational people think they are fucking fools.

[thesummerqueen]

Creationists should not be surprised when rational people think they are fucking fools.

And yet they always are. I got called a kool-aid drinker. I didn't realize that people who lived in the real world were thought to have drunk the flavor-aid rather than the other way around...

[Statler Waldorf]

Anyway, i thought I was Brontosaurus boy! Can I be Brontosaurus boy please?

I don't remember which of you made that funny mistake. I just assume you all believe Brontosaurus was real.

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Well actually I was trying to keep your forum neat and tidy for you. If you cannot recognize the courtesy of this gesture then whatever.

I can't recognise the courtesy of the gesture. We have separate forums that divide the main categories. We have separate threads that divide the sub-categories of each forum. If I wanted a forum where we only had one thread for everything, I would have set it up that way. It is far easier to separate out discussions into different threads, because then the flow of the thread is contained, and people can read a single discussion from start to finish with no problems. Your method would have dinosaurs being discussed with light, the big bang, etc. Have you read your own thread recently? It's a big mess of different topics, all because you've insisted on having people talk in that thread rather than create others. I find that the complete opposite of "neat and tidy".

Well you see that's just the thing. The thread I created was a topic thread. The topic was "questions for Statler Waldorf". This certainly falls under that topic since I was addressed in the thread. I did it that way to keep things clean on your forum. I also did it because I was having to answer the same question three or four different times in three or four different threads. So it is better for everyone that I do it in the other thread. I will be glad to do so if you want me to. I am starting to think you actually do not want an answer to your questions.

[Minimalist]

No. What we all know is that he was not on any fucking ark.

[Statler Waldorf]

And then he was the one who suggested I create a new thread for dinosaur discussion because he didn't think it was right to mess up his thread regarding the age of the earth.... because its probably in some way not relevant....????

This was before I realized that it was better for everyone that I just answer questions in one single thread. This seems to be a good idea since you even admitted in this thread that all the topics relate.

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To paraphrase Lewis Black, dinosaurs (and their fossils) are nothing more than products of a Wile E. Coyote-esque devil out to confuse our tiny non-believing brains.

I imagine he does have a lot of work cut out for him to answer that other thread - I saw how big it was getting. It's an uphill battle coming up with bigger steaming piles of bullshit to back up your already-existing stinky piles that real science and common sense keep burying.

I am sure I don't actually have to tell you, but an appeal to common sense is a logical fallacy. I kind of thought that was common sense though...oh wait......

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No. What we all know is that he was not on any fucking ark.

Ahh, "The Assertion" makes another assertion. No surprise there.

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Creationists should not be surprised when rational people think they are fucking fools.

And yet they always are. I got called a kool-aid drinker. I didn't realize that people who lived in the real world were thought to have drunk the flavor-aid rather than the other way around...

Calling yourself "rational" and claiming to live in the "real world" don't actually prove anything, but I am sure you alrady knew that. Just like calling yourself "pretty" and claiming to live in a "mansion" doesn't actually prove either are valid statements.

[thesummerqueen]

I am sure I don't actually have to tell you, but an appeal to common sense is a logical fallacy. I kind of thought that was common sense though...oh wait......

Calling yourself "rational" and claiming to live in the "real world" don't actually prove anything, but I am sure you alrady knew that. Just like calling yourself "pretty" and claiming to live in a "mansion" doesn't actually prove either are valid statements.

Just making observations, sugar. No one has to believe a word I say.

By the way, in the time it took to arrange all that, you could have answered the dinosaur question. You'll have to enlighten me, as I grew up reading science books and wandering around in the Natural History Museum in Washington D.C. I have never been to one of these museums I hear mention of that show humans and dinosaurs living together. So please, explain to us all...if the earth is only about 6000 years old, what are all these really freakin' old bones doing lying around? And are there specific examples of these "terrible lizards" in the Bible? I don't remember learning about them in Sunday School, and my people work specifically with the Old Testament, which is where I thought they'd be mentioned. It's just an opinion of mine that if an Old Testament patriarch had seen a dinosaur, after he wiped the poop out of his robes, he'd have told us about it...

[Ace Otana]

Creationists should not be surprised when rational people think they are fucking fools.

It's hard to find someone who is a bigger fool than a creationist.
Creationists make even the thickest people look smart.

I don't plan on debating with another anytime soon.

BTW, if you're sick and tired of that idiot, just add him to your ignore list. All his posts just disappear.

[Statler Waldorf]

I am sure I don't actually have to tell you, but an appeal to common sense is a logical fallacy. I kind of thought that was common sense though...oh wait......

Calling yourself "rational" and claiming to live in the "real world" don't actually prove anything, but I am sure you alrady knew that. Just like calling yourself "pretty" and claiming to live in a "mansion" doesn't actually prove either are valid statements.

Just making observations, sugar. No one has to believe a word I say.

By the way, in the time it took to arrange all that, you could have answered the dinosaur question. You'll have to enlighten me, as I grew up reading science books and wandering around in the Natural History Museum in Washington D.C. I have never been to one of these museums I hear mention of that show humans and dinosaurs living together. So please, explain to us all...if the earth is only about 6000 years old, what are all these really freakin' old bones doing lying around? And are there specific examples of these "terrible lizards" in the Bible? I don't remember learning about them in Sunday School, and my people work specifically with the Old Testament, which is where I thought they'd be mentioned. It's just an opinion of mine that if an Old Testament patriarch had seen a dinosaur, after he wiped the poop out of his robes, he'd have told us about it...

Ahh, I too have read science books and have been to the MNH in D.C. . You act like the dinosaur question is a quick answer for both sides of the issue. Well it appears that "your people" did mention dinosaurs, quite often too. Since the word "dinosaur" was not created until the 19th Century by Richard Owen (Creationist) I would not expect to see an ancient Hebrew word for it. However the word "dragon" is used numerious times in the Old Testament. It is used symbolically at times but also used when talking about everyday animals. If I ran into a dinosaur before the word dinosaur was created I probably would describe them as dragons as well. Since dragons really are only giant lizards. There are also some msyterious animals mentioned in Job that are often described today with everyday animals but these animals do not fit the actual description in the text. As to your old "bones" laying around, I assume you mean fossils?

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Creationists should not be surprised when rational people think they are fucking fools.

It's hard to find someone who is a bigger fool than a creationist.
Creationists make even the thickest people look smart.

I don't plan on debating with another anytime soon. "He who argues with a fool can be mistaken as a fool." - Not my quote.

Yet we found you right? :-) Personal attacks are fun! You are one of the best at them, but how about you try and string together a logical argument to support your position? Or are you afraid you will fail?

[orogenicman]

Ahh, I too have read science books and have been to the MNH in D.C. . You act like the dinosaur question is a quick answer for both sides of the issue. Well it appears that "your people" did mention dinosaurs, quite often too. Since the word "dinosaur" was not created until the 19th Century by Richard Owen (Creationist) I would not expect to see an ancient Hebrew word for it. However the word "dragon" is used numerious times in the Old Testament. It is used symbolically at times but also used when talking about everyday animals. If I ran into a dinosaur before the word dinosaur was created I probably would describe them as dragons as well. Since dragons really are only giant lizards. There are also some msyterious animals mentioned in Job that are often described today with everyday animals but these animals do not fit the actual description in the text. As to your old "bones" laying around, I assume you mean fossils?

Funny how you don't mention the fact that Owen was an ardent supporter in some form of evolution, and had been developing a theory of evolution of his own. In fact, he praised some aspects of Darwin's. Although he and Darwin became enemies, it wasn't so at first. But his biggest argument was with Huxley and the notion that we were descended from apes (which we know now, of course, is beside the point since we are, in fact, a species of ape). I think that entire episode was, more than anything, sour grapes on Owns' part. He died a bitter man, largely because he ultimately lost face and lost the argument. I'm sure this is something you aspire to, eh?

[Minimalist]

Calling yourself "rational" and claiming to live in the "real world" don't actually prove anything,

NO but calling yourself a creationist pretty much dooms you when it comes to rationalty.