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White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
(August 20, 2017 at 6:20 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Opening moves especially in an operation of such scale are generally going to be chaotic .

Of course. All war is the struggle to impose the order of plans upon the chaos of battle -- and as Clausewitz (or was it Moltke the Elder) pointed out -- "No plan survives the first contact with the enemy."

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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
(August 20, 2017 at 6:28 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(August 20, 2017 at 6:20 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Opening moves especially in an operation of such scale are generally going to be chaotic .

Of course. All war is the struggle to impose the order of plans upon the chaos of battle -- and as Clausewitz (or was it Moltke the Elder) pointed out -- "No plan survives the first contact with the enemy."

Indeed waterloo , Sekigahara and Chibi show this is true
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
(August 20, 2017 at 6:28 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(August 20, 2017 at 6:20 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Opening moves especially in an operation of such scale are generally going to be chaotic .

Of course. All war is the struggle to impose the order of plans upon the chaos of battle -- and as Clausewitz (or was it Moltke the Elder) pointed out -- "No plan survives the first contact with the enemy."


Or as Mike Tyson put it, 'Everyone has a plan til you get punched in the face.'

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
(August 14, 2017 at 6:32 pm)Rahul Wrote: I too am a fellow Southerner with a Confederate ancestor.  My position on the removal of public Confederate monuments is rather apathetic.  I really don't care one way or the other.  The Civil War has  been over for over 150 years now.  We lost.  We Southerners need to get over it.  Remember our past yes, but try to bring it all back, no.

I've got a LOT of Confederate ancestors.  lol

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