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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 17, 2017 at 4:12 pm
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(August 17, 2017 at 4:08 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: (August 17, 2017 at 1:32 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I find what Trump said like this.
"The rapist had scratch marks on his face, so there was guilt on both sides"
When those republican congressman were shot a few months ago, every single news outlet said the 'both sides' thing.
When the rape victim took money from the rapist lobby to remove penalty for rape and promote the view that rape is just self defense against being oppressed by an overbearing woman, then there is guilt on both sides.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 17, 2017 at 4:18 pm
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(August 17, 2017 at 4:08 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: (August 17, 2017 at 1:32 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I find what Trump said like this.
"The rapist had scratch marks on his face, so there was guilt on both sides"
When those republican congressman were shot a few months ago, every single news outlet said the 'both sides' thing.
Really? EVERY SINGLE NEWS OUTLET?
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/a...index.html
Quote:Shooter identified
Hodgkinson's Facebook page is largely political, and his profile picture is a caricature of Bernie Sanders as Uncle Sam.
The Facebook feed is filled with anti-Trump sentiments such as "Trump is guilty and should go to prison for treason."
He also "liked" a political cartoon that suggested that Scalise should be fired. On March 22, he posted "Trump is a Traitor. Trump Has Destroyed Our Democracy. It's Time to Destroy Trump & Co."
Funny. I just don't recall that. Maybe that was the FOX news take?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/14/vir...-shot.html
Quote:A gunman believed to be a supporter of former Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders sprayed a hail of bullets at a GOP baseball practice Wednesday morning, critically wounding House Majority Whip Steve Scalise and injuring four others before U.S. Capitol Police took down the rifle-wielding assailant.
I guess not even them.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 17, 2017 at 5:49 pm
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Minimalist Wrote: (August 17, 2017 at 4:08 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: When those republican congressman were shot a few months ago, every single news outlet said the 'both sides' thing.
Really? EVERY SINGLE NEWS OUTLET?
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/a...index.html
Quote:Shooter identified
Hodgkinson's Facebook page is largely political, and his profile picture is a caricature of Bernie Sanders as Uncle Sam.
The Facebook feed is filled with anti-Trump sentiments such as "Trump is guilty and should go to prison for treason."
He also "liked" a political cartoon that suggested that Scalise should be fired. On March 22, he posted "Trump is a Traitor. Trump Has Destroyed Our Democracy. It's Time to Destroy Trump & Co."
Funny. I just don't recall that. Maybe that was the FOX news take?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/14/vir...-shot.html
Quote:A gunman believed to be a supporter of former Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders sprayed a hail of bullets at a GOP baseball practice Wednesday morning, critically wounding House Majority Whip Steve Scalise and injuring four others before U.S. Capitol Police took down the rifle-wielding assailant.
I guess not even them. Did you know that every news outlet doesn't mean the same thing as every news article.
These are both articles right after the congressional shooting.
Fox: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/...-says.html
Quote:
Rep. Davis: 'Political rhetorical terrorism' has got to stop
The shooting Wednesday at a congressional baseball practice prompted swift calls to ratchet down the country’s heated political rhetoric, with one Republican congressman who was at the scene saying the “hateful rhetoric” on both sides has to stop.
CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/m...index.html
Quote:"The blame can go on the Republican side, it can go on the Democrat side
When a Bernie Sander's supporter shoots up a bunch of congressmen, why is it okay to point out violence on both sides, but not when the violence comes from the fringe right? Then it's an outrage to point out that there is political violence on multiple fronts? The hypocrisy is obvious.
You know who else said it? You after the same event was quick not to condemn that shooting, but rather to point out the violence associated with the 'other side'
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 17, 2017 at 7:40 pm
They were talking about Dems and republicunts. Not racists/fascists and progressives. Work on your reading comprehension.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 17, 2017 at 7:49 pm
This is not a question of the standard political dived. This is difference between fucking Nazi's and there supporters and everyone else.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 17, 2017 at 10:48 pm
This guy is a fucking Aussie and he gets it.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 18, 2017 at 1:28 am
That video's not available in Australia.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 18, 2017 at 6:43 am
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(August 17, 2017 at 5:49 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Minimalist Wrote:Really? EVERY SINGLE NEWS OUTLET?
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/a...index.html
Funny. I just don't recall that. Maybe that was the FOX news take?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/14/vir...-shot.html
I guess not even them. Did you know that every news outlet doesn't mean the same thing as every news article.
These are both articles right after the congressional shooting.
Fox: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/...-says.html
Quote:
Rep. Davis: 'Political rhetorical terrorism' has got to stop
The shooting Wednesday at a congressional baseball practice prompted swift calls to ratchet down the country’s heated political rhetoric, with one Republican congressman who was at the scene saying the “hateful rhetoric” on both sides has to stop.
CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/m...index.html
Quote:"The blame can go on the Republican side, it can go on the Democrat side
When a Bernie Sander's supporter shoots up a bunch of congressmen, why is it okay to point out violence on both sides, but not when the violence comes from the fringe right? Then it's an outrage to point out that there is political violence on multiple fronts? The hypocrisy is obvious.
You know who else said it? You after the same event was quick not to condemn that shooting, but rather to point out the violence associated with the 'other side'
First off fuckface, when that guy did that it didn't take 2 fucking days to condemn him. THAT DAY as soon as law enforcement put out his name DEMS leaders flat out condemned it. Secondly asshole, we are also the ones who would love nothing more than to prevent unstable people from accessing weapons, your side loves the fucking free for all.
BUT no sorry asshole, this is about Nazi supporters and KKK supporters. Both whom have an historical ideology of attacking American values. There is no moral equivocation between those who fought to keep slavery and fascist ideology that Lincoln fought against.
So fuck you for equating that sicko who shot up the baseball field as being the same as the reaction of the counter protesters whom were rightfully reacting to groups who support racism and lack of pluralism. DEMS did condemn that baseball shooter and to say we did not FUCK YOU.
Reagan and Bush Jr and Bush Sr, even as much as I hate their economics, NONE OF THEM, not one of them would have tried to say that Nazi supporters and KKK supporters are the same as those who react to them as being the same. NOT EVEN THEY would have done that.
GROW THE FUCK UP, if you cannot understand that the fascism of Nazi Germany was bad, or that slavery was bad, you need some serious mental help.
Bernie himself condemned the baseball shooter. I DO TO FUCKFACE.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 18, 2017 at 10:35 am
(August 18, 2017 at 1:28 am)Little lunch Wrote: That video's not available in Australia.
Ironic, huh?
Try a proxy server?
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 18, 2017 at 10:50 am
Maybe the both sides issue, was that the counter protesters were physically assaulting people? I get the notion that we like seeing nazi or nazi like people getting punched, but that doesn't make it legal. It's basically vigilantism, and escalates a situation in which one side is filled with crazy people many of them with guns. I'm shocked more people haven't been murdered at these things, but that just goes to show how big of a non-factor most of these nazi types are.
Hitler and his ilk had a country and a massive army they tried to take over the world with. These guys have 30 somethings who work in a hot dog store that are mostly scared of a physical confrontation.
My thoughts on the lady getting killed is what a waste it was. The outcome of Charlottesville with no 'counter protesters standing up to evil' was they marched with their little tiki torches. Nobody cares. Town removes statue instead of them. And back they go to pizza shops and hotdog stores.
Losing your life over a perceived symbolic victory doesn't seem like a good tradeoff.
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