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Australia church abuse: Priests 'must report' confessions
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Australia church abuse: Priests 'must report' confessions
August 14, 2017 at 6:25 am
Catholic clerics should face criminal charges if they do not report sexual abuse disclosed to them during confession, an Australian inquiry has recommended

The inquiry had heard harrowing tales of abuse, which were never passed on to the relevant authorities.
The Church has indicated it will oppose altering the rules around confession.  (why???)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-40920714
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RE: Australia church abuse: Priests 'must report' confessions
August 14, 2017 at 7:08 am (This post was last modified: August 14, 2017 at 7:09 am by ignoramus.)
Yeah, been all over the news today here.

The Catholic heads are saying we will not comply because we report to a higher authority!
But the kind clergyman said that they will pass on any confessed details of the child in question so he/she can receive the relevant help.

These guys aren't just deluded, they're just plain fucking evil! ...yep, just like the boss they serve...
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RE: Australia church abuse: Priests 'must report' confessions
August 14, 2017 at 8:23 am
Wow, someone is telling them they are molesting children and not only are they not going to tell police, they are not even going to warn the people in their community. They absolutely should face charges for not turning a person like that in.
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RE: Australia church abuse: Priests 'must report' confessions
August 14, 2017 at 8:30 am
Are they going to include their own ranks in this, I wonder?
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RE: Australia church abuse: Priests 'must report' confessions
August 14, 2017 at 9:25 am
Well that's understandable after all, it is kind of hard to report or warn the community about themselves...
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RE: Australia church abuse: Priests 'must report' confessions
August 14, 2017 at 9:33 am
Glob...

This whole story is based on confession and the right the church has to keep that confession silent...

Now what happens when the gub-ment can force the church to reveal anyone's confessions? People will simply stop confessing.

Now at least you have some over site and some disciplinary action taken from with in the church, force the confessions.. you will have nothing.
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RE: Australia church abuse: Priests 'must report' confessions
August 14, 2017 at 9:45 am (This post was last modified: August 14, 2017 at 9:46 am by Homeless Nutter.)
(August 14, 2017 at 9:33 am)Drich Wrote: Glob...

This whole story is based on confession and the right the church has to keep that confession silent...

You mean - the right the church has to protect child rapists.

(August 14, 2017 at 9:33 am)Drich Wrote: Now what happens when the gub-ment can force the church to reveal anyone's confessions? People will simply stop confessing.

Good.

(August 14, 2017 at 9:33 am)Drich Wrote: Now at least you have some over site and some disciplinary action taken from with in the church, force the confessions.. you will have nothing.

No - now we have nothing. Pedophiles "disciplining" pedophiles - that's something only brainwashed morons would call justice. F*ck the confessions - the church is going to have to find some other ways to spy on its flock.
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RE: Australia church abuse: Priests 'must report' confessions
August 14, 2017 at 9:47 am
(August 14, 2017 at 9:33 am)Drich Wrote: Glob...

This whole story is based on confession and the right the church has to keep that confession silent...

Now what happens when the gub-ment can force the church to reveal anyone's confessions? People will simply stop confessing.

Now at least you have some over site and some disciplinary action taken from with in the church, force the confessions.. you will have nothing.

Way to put institutional rules ahead of the welfare of innocent children.  Jesus would be proud.
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RE: Australia church abuse: Priests 'must report' confessions
August 14, 2017 at 9:47 am
The point of confessing is that it will not become public. Of course the catholic church has a bad track record for rooting out sexual abuse, so I'm not surprised they aren't overly concerned about this kind of thing. Still, if what they're confessing to is a big crime like this, then something really should be done. Beyond just praying for them.
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RE: Australia church abuse: Priests 'must report' confessions
August 14, 2017 at 10:17 am
It's not surprising. The whole "point" of confession is that it stays anonymous. Of course, priests should not be above the law. If it's against the law to be aware of a certain crime and not tell someone, then priests should be treated to the same.
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