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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 10:00 am
Maybe if you worshipped AM's god, you'd have another kid but have four more years of Bacchanalian debauchery?
On the other hand, if he didn't worship a god, maybe he'd have four more years of sobriety at the expense of one child?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 10:29 am
(August 27, 2017 at 9:19 am)alpha male Wrote: (August 26, 2017 at 5:15 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: I'm not sure how anyone can be comfortable with gullibility. But to each his or her own...
Really? Most people have no problem accepting non-falsifiable positions if they like those positions. A gay or trans person says there were born that way. Plenty of atheists take that at face value, even though it's not falsifiable. Well, actually, it pretty much is falsified by twins studies, but you guys accept it anyway.
Quote:Maybe if you can demonstrate that those things happen at a significantly higher rate for Christians than people of other religions, or no religions, you may have a point.
I'm not trying to prove a point. The question was whether I'm comfortable with it, not whether I could prove it to your satisfaction.
What studies are those, the ones you've pulled out of your ass? You're already comfortable being gullible, so by your own admission, everything you believe is suspect. And don't fucking pull this false equivocation bullshit on us, prick.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 10:35 am
(August 27, 2017 at 9:21 am)Cyberman Wrote: (August 27, 2017 at 8:58 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: God watches over every blade of grass, too. I guess I don't see the problem.
How do you know this?
A smart person only takes little imagination to work that out Cyb.
Humans are stuck with the UNIDIMENSIONAL factor that means that we can only do one thing at the time, think at one thing at the time and be in one place at the time therefore we come to the conclusion that everybody must follow the same routine.
After billion years that the universe exist and keep on expanding come natural that someone is there with a MULTIDIMENSIONAL mind that can watch even a blade of grass and make sure that everything works the best possible way.
I guess you never thought about that Cyb, did you? 
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 11:19 am
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I'm talking to the organ-grinder, not the monkey. Go and play in traffic.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 12:03 pm
(August 26, 2017 at 7:44 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You substituted one addiction for another. Granted, its easier on your liver but let's not kid ourselves on what you did.
I wish I were addicted to going to church and reading the Bible, but I don't do either nearly as much as I should.
But if I had switched a malignant addiction for a benign one, I'd be fine with that.
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 12:04 pm
Shouldn't you be looking for a benign addiction, then, to replace your malignant jesusism?
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 12:05 pm
(August 26, 2017 at 9:57 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: god is a psychological construct created by man, or if you prefer, the human mind. Probably subconsciously in the beginning but expanded upon consciously when recognized as a tool to modify behavior within a society.
It's usefulness as a tool is waning.
Hardly. Europe has largely abandoned Christianity, and it's largely abandoned having babies. Secular attempts at encouraging procreation haven't worked, so now they're importing people, largely theists, to fill the gap.
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 12:06 pm
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Are you suggesting that religion is a baby making tool.....or....honestly, what? Fun fact, we do the same here, in the US. Natives are slightly below the replacement rate - it's the influx of immigrants that keeps us well supplied with the necessary labor and population to support our continued well-being. They're also, largely, religious. More amusingly still..within one or two generations they've been thoroughly naturalized, having more in common with the culture in which they were raised than the one which they left. That also coincides with a reduction in their reproductive rates and growing secular or even irreligious leanings.
The subversiveness of our melting pot culture might be the missing ingredient that european cultures lack, in that regard - though it's really only a difference of degree and rapidity. Immigrants end up naturalizing, to varying extents, regardless of where they go - and all of western society (really, all society, lol) has, to some extent, swallowed a portion of the american kool-aid.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 12:07 pm
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(August 27, 2017 at 9:25 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Me, Sober, married 30 years, two children, good job...it's working out just fine. no gods involved
And you're probably comfortable with that, right?
(August 27, 2017 at 10:29 am)Astonished Wrote: What studies are those, the ones you've pulled out of your ass?
Here's a starting point:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_an...in_studies
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 12:21 pm
(August 27, 2017 at 8:58 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: God watches over every blade of grass, too. I guess I don't see the problem.
Guess that explains all the needless suffering in the world. Gawd's too busy making sure your lawn stays green and your favorite team wins! 
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