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God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
But we don't have "God" here, do we? We've only got you, and your mates. So until your pet god decides to stump up some evidence, you're the ones stuck with the burden of proof. Sucks, but that's the cookie you chose.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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(September 5, 2017 at 11:17 am)Drich Wrote: 2000 years of stupid liars... when in every single other case of false religion has never lasted longer than the society that it originates from..

OR... What if those who claim to have seen God simply have, and you and those like you are indeed simply on the outs?

You are really full of shit, aren't you?  You're either lying or stupid.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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(September 5, 2017 at 4:44 pm)Cyberman Wrote: But we don't have "God" here, do we? We've only got you, and your mates. So until your pet god decides to stump up some evidence, you're the ones stuck with the burden of proof. Sucks, but that's the cookie you chose.

Actually.. "We" do. and as such God is responsible for proof. Which He has made attainable for all of those who would humble themselves not before any of us, but before Him (quietly secretly)

(September 6, 2017 at 9:16 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(September 5, 2017 at 11:17 am)Drich Wrote: 2000 years of stupid liars... when in every single other case of false religion has never lasted longer than the society that it originates from..

OR... What if those who claim to have seen God simply have, and you and those like you are indeed simply on the outs?

You are really full of shit, aren't you?  You're either lying or stupid.

Or I'm not and what I have said is true.

I know for those like you who think yourself better than everyone else it is far easier to simply dismiss everyone who believes in God as a liar, but truthfully history does not bear out worship to nothingness... No religion lasts a generation maybe two beyond the society that supported it. Meaning people are not stupid and once they find out there is absllutly nothing behind a God they move on.

So either the vast majority of the world is beyond deluded or there is indeed something people witness that aligns them with their deity.

Which means people like you are simply missing out on something.
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(September 6, 2017 at 1:03 pm)Drich Wrote:
(September 5, 2017 at 4:44 pm)Cyberman Wrote: But we don't have "God" here, do we? We've only got you, and your mates. So until your pet god decides to stump up some evidence, you're the ones stuck with the burden of proof. Sucks, but that's the cookie you chose.

Actually.. "We" do. and as such God is responsible for proof. Which He has made attainable for all of those who would humble themselves not before any of us, but before Him (quietly secretly)

No, actually we don't. I can honestly say, with total confidence and access to the membership database, that "he" has never even tried to register as a member here. So until then, looks like "he" is stiffing you with the burden of proof. Hey, take it up with "him".
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
How 'bout this:

True or false; A god who is a trickster (think Loki) or a demon posing as a god, would use suspicious means to 'prove' itself rather than overtly showing itself. Such as only revealing itself to a limited few, or using fallible methods of communicating, or using threats in its messages to enforce belief.

Sound familiar?
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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(September 6, 2017 at 1:03 pm)Drich Wrote:
(September 5, 2017 at 4:44 pm)Cyberman Wrote: But we don't have "God" here, do we? We've only got you, and your mates. So until your pet god decides to stump up some evidence, you're the ones stuck with the burden of proof. Sucks, but that's the cookie you chose.

Actually.. "We" do. and as such God is responsible for proof. Which He has made attainable for all of those who would humble themselves not before any of us, but before Him (quietly secretly)

(September 6, 2017 at 9:16 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: You are really full of shit, aren't you?  You're either lying or stupid.

Or I'm not and what I have said is true.

I know for those like you who think yourself better than everyone else it is far easier to simply dismiss everyone who believes in God as a liar, but truthfully history does not bear out worship to nothingness... No religion lasts a generation maybe two beyond the society that supported it. Meaning people are not stupid and once they find out there is absllutly nothing behind a God they move on.

So either the vast majority of the world is beyond deluded or there is indeed something people witness that aligns them with their deity.

Which means people like you are simply missing out on something.

Just proving my point.  We don't make god out as a liar, we make YOU out as a liar, or, at the very least, a gullible person with an ego complex that can't allow themselves to be wrong once they've decided to believe something.

And now it's "a generation maybe two".  Were those goalposts heavy?

Yes, the vast majority of the world IS deluded.  The combination of power hungry leaders, indoctrination and emotional neediness is prime fertilizer for religion.  Reason and logic have taken a back seat to these things.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(September 5, 2017 at 4:36 pm)Drich Wrote: [edit]
FALSE,  AIDS is a SYNDROME Meaning a condition in this case describes an auto immune deficiency. There are many reason why one can have a diminished autoimmune response. You are describing one AIDS response where the HIV virus destroys the body's ability to fight infection of sickness. There are also several non viral reasons AIDS.. In essence one can test positive for AIDS and not have the HIV virus. That said I do understand the most popular way to get AIDS is from HIV.

SO as I said God saw me through an AIDS diagnosis without any medication.
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Medical source please. Ones that specifically describe non HIV related autoimmune disorders as AIDS. Sources that are not bullshit.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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(September 7, 2017 at 11:24 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Medical source please. Ones that specifically describe non HIV related autoimmune disorders as AIDS. Sources that are not bullshit.

^^^ This.  Peer-reviewed journal references, or it didn't happen.
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Remember d(delisional)rich, the A in AIDS stand for acquired, not auto-. Don't even try to use autoimmune disorders.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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