A good argument for God's existence (long but worth it)

[Mystic]

Or is it because you never want to stop doubting. *smiles*

False dichotomy.

*smiles awkwardly*



I don't want to stop doubting because... I don't want to turn off the rational part of my brain, unlike yourself.

Whatever your motives are or deceptions you deceive yourself with, it's not my fault.

If you want to address the argument, and then tell me why it falls flat or has no reference that is fine.

Atheists want to define "Reason" which is the word of light, the word of God, the sword of honor by which we are to do away with the darkness of irrationality and ignorance.

And they want to define what the true God would be if it were to exist, and not only that, but define what all the true morals and wisdom, laws, and structure and code, or lack of it, he would do. 

All while being the honest sincere doubters they are. *smiles*

[Mister Agenda]

Welcome back, MK.

This seems to be, at best, an argument against the Argument from Evil, rather than an argument for the existence of God. It doesn't matter how good you make God out to be, or how well you reconcile the existence of evil with a good, omnipotent God; there's still no sufficiently justified rational reason to believe such a God is real in the first place.

[Edwardo Piet]

If you want to address the argument, and then tell me why it falls flat or has no reference that is fine.

I already did. You didn't say anything to defeat the standard argument because you said nothing relevant to the actual argument you're supposed to be challenging. That's why it falls flat.

[Mister Agenda]

Atheists want to define "Reason" which is the word of light, the word of God, the sword of honor by which we are to do away with the darkness of irrationality and ignorance.

The time to stop doubting is when there's no longer room for reasonable doubt. I'll use this definition of reason if you will:

2.

the power of the mind to think, understand, and form judgments by a process of logic.
"there is a close connection between reason and emotion"

synonyms: rationality, logic, logical thought, reasoning, cognition; formal ratiocination
"postmodern voices railing against reason"

[Mystic]

Welcome back, MK.

This seems to be, at best, an argument against the Argument from Evil, rather than an argument for the existence of God. It doesn't matter how good you make God out to be, or how well you reconcile the existence of evil with a good, omnipotent God; there's still no sufficiently justified rational reason to believe such a God is real in the first place.

The argument against evil was a small part, it was just beginning to show how paradoxical it is when we recall that there has to be a connection to God to attribute anything to it. You don't get to make the connections, point the arrow, make the sky, all while denying the link to the sky, denying the skyward sword itself.

The main post is addressed at proving God from a different angle than what I have posted before. Give it a read, try to digest it.  If you can show the flaw, show it.

[Edwardo Piet]

Welcome back, MK.

This seems to be, at best, an argument against the Argument from Evil, rather than an argument for the existence of God. It doesn't matter how good you make God out to be, or how well you reconcile the existence of evil with a good, omnipotent God; there's still no sufficiently justified rational reason to believe such a God is real in the first place.

It's an attempt but complete failure at even addressing the Argument from Evil.

And yes, even if a good God that is 100% powerful and 100% knowledgable were possible (it isn't possible but even if it were).... there's still no evidence for such a God.

His argument is declared as addressing the argument form evil. He simply declares that he is addressing it.... but then.... he doesn't even address it. Lol.

And the logic from the argument from evil is completely undefeatable anyway. Only time I've actually seen it successfuly ADDRESSED is when people say that God allows evil because he thinks giving people the free will is more important than preventing evil. 1. It isn't. God should make us all permanently happy conscious biological robots incapable of doing evil without free will if he's truly good. 2. Free will isn't even fucking possible and we already are conscious biological robots... we're just not all happy or incapable of doing evil, because there isn't a good God.

[Mystic]

The time to stop doubting is when there's no longer room for reasonable doubt. I'll use this definition of reason if you will:

But how do you recognize that spiritually?

You see 1+1=2. You can easily see this.

The topics I discuss all lie at the heart of what makes us human. You have to know when to stop doubting and perceiving perceptions that prove who we are as humans, that are linked to who we are, how we exist, how we are defined, how we perceive etc....

It cannot be just you apply how you would stop doubting whether we landed on the moon or not, to something that is foundational to who we are, to remembering who we are.

[Edwardo Piet]

The main post is addressed at proving God from a different angle than what I have posted before. Give it a read, try to digest it.  If you can show the flaw, show it.

And if you can ignore the flaws shown, ignore them. Oh wait you're already doing that. Probably because you've stopped doubting and switched your brain off.

[LadyForCamus]

Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

[Edwardo Piet]

What's up LFC?