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Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
#11
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
(September 10, 2017 at 2:21 pm)Coveny Wrote: On the point of Michelle Carter what if her intention to end his suffering?

If that was her original intent, and nothing else changes, her behavior became criminal when her boyfriend indicated he didn't want to kill himself and she browbeat him into doing it anyways.

Whatever her intent here, if this ever was a case of assisted suicide it ceased being one after he tried to back out. This is little different than a person who shouts fire when there is none, or one incites a riot, or one eggs on a suicidally depressed person - there are predictable outcomes of harm that a reasonable personal could and should conclude being wrongful.

Frankly I don't even get why this is is particularly controversial - there was nothing benign about her intentions or actions, and I personally have a difficult time putting a shade of grey on it. Charles Manson rots in prison for murder despite never personally killing anyone.

There's no firm line that could be drawn. The grey ends where a reasonable personal would conclude the wrongness of those actions.
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#12
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
Quote:On the point of Michelle Carter what if her intention to end his suffering?

I'd be surprised if that conviction could survive a constitutional challenge.
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#13
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
Regarding this thread title... I misread that as "prostitution".
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#14
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
-bump-

Irrelevant rant removed. . . had too little to do with OP.
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#15
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
(September 10, 2017 at 2:57 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(September 10, 2017 at 2:21 pm)Coveny Wrote: On the point of Michelle Carter what if her intention to end his suffering?

If that was her original intent, and nothing else changes, her behavior became criminal when her boyfriend indicated he didn't want to kill himself and she browbeat him into doing it anyways.

Whatever her intent here, if this ever was a case of assisted suicide it ceased being one after he tried to back out.  This is little different than a person who shouts fire when there is none, or one incites a riot, or one eggs on a suicidally depressed person - there are predictable outcomes of harm that a reasonable personal could and should conclude being wrongful.

Frankly I don't even get why this is is particularly controversial - there was nothing benign about her intentions or actions, and I personally have a difficult time putting a shade of grey on it. Charles Manson rots in prison for murder despite never personally killing anyone.

There's no firm line that could be drawn.  The grey ends where a reasonable personal would conclude the wrongness of those actions.

I still have concerns about Michelle Carter's mental competency at the time of the event. I hope that there is mandatory mental health treatment at some point during her time in the system.
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#16
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
Americans suffer from the Moses syndrome. They think if they have a billion laws they won't have any more problems.
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#17
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
(September 11, 2017 at 7:31 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Americans suffer from the Moses syndrome.  They think if they have a billion laws they won't have any more problems.

How is creating a billion laws the "moses syndrome"?
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#18
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
600+ laws of Leviticus ring a bell ????

Some even concern menstruation.
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#19
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
And wearing two kinds of fabrics.

( I think the sheep herders guild slipped that one in there!)
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#20
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
2 different kinds of flowers in one pot

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