Why as an Atheist I Cannot Sin

[Cyberman]

Put more simply, for the more simple: if "God" has a problem with anything I say or do, have it come and tell me itself. Don't send its goons to do its dirty work for it. I might start thinking it's not there, mightn't I?

[Little Rik]

It is true that .......the church needs the guilt card in its hand, or it has no power......as Cyb say but why related religion with what God may or may not have said?
Why don't atheists stop relating what religions say with what God may have said?

There is no evidence that religions are the word of God so why don't you leave God alone and only judge what religions say?  

Because the only - repeat, the only - account of what "God" is supposed to have said comes from religion; the fan club, not the source itself. That is consistently silent on this or any other matter.

Life is all about finding and getting the real McCoy Cyb.
If God would not be silent and tell you where the real McCoy is and how to get it easily then life would have no meaning.
There wouldn't be no evolution.
Nothing of nothing and God wouldn't see the dormant conscious in the matter turn into plants, animals, human beings and back into his ocean of consciousness.

It would be sad to be alone.  

I guess you never thought about it Cyb, did you?  

[Cyberman]

Rikky, stop telling people they never thought about it, you condescending wanker. Even if anything you have to say held the slightest interest for me, you shoot yourself in the dick every time you do that.

[Little Rik]

Put more simply, for the more simple: if "God" has a problem with anything I say or do, have it come and tell me itself. Don't send its goons to do its dirty work for it. I might start thinking it's not there, mightn't I?

How do you know that religions are God's goons?
Have you got any evidence to prove that religions represent God's words?

What about if the priests invented stories after stories claiming that they are God's words and putting themselves as intermediaries between God and the masses without asking God permission?

[Cyberman]

Thank you for restating my position, but points deducted for twisting it to make it seem I said the opposite. Did you think nobody would notice?

[vorlon13]

While I agree with the topic, it isn't going to change how I look at/experience sex because it makes it more fun to imagine God is watching and getting REALLY pissed off* when I [redacted], [redacted], [redacted], and [redacted].

* and a little turned on too, and maybe jealous "Damn that vorlon is having more fun than I ever get up here with these pious bastards everywhere . . . ."

[Aegon]

Because the only - repeat, the only - account of what "God" is supposed to have said comes from religion; the fan club, not the source itself. That is consistently silent on this or any other matter.

Life is all about finding and getting the real McCoy Cyb.
If God would not be silent and tell you where the real McCoy is and how to get it easily then life would have no meaning.

Oh yeah... that's why...

[Little Rik]

Rikky, stop telling people they never thought about it, you condescending wanker. Even if anything you have to say held the slightest interest for me, you shoot yourself in the dick every time you do that.

Well, well Cyb.
When I started to post in this forum I respected everybody.
After a short time people started to use offensive language just because they did and do not agree with my beliefs and that gave me the impression that everything is on the table so to speak.
I do not swear or use filthy language as some people here do and I can not reply with swearing or filthy language because that is sick so I thought that I may at least use some sort of fun language to counter that filth.
Now apparently I can not so I will have to put up with more offensive language and be silent.
Is this what you are asking me?

[Cyberman]

Rikky, your arrogant condescension hangs around you like the stench from a foetid cesspool. You track it through every single thread you touch. You are incapable of polite conversation. If I wanted to commit suicide, I would jump from your ego down to your IQ.

This is not the Little Rik Forum. It does not revolve around you. Shove your holier-than-thou attitude up the arsehole where you keep your intellect.

[Rhondazvous]

Sin is usually taken to mean a transgression against the biblegod. All those "thou shalt nots" are pronouncements about thoughts and actions that "the lord" deems abominable, not a system for assessing morality. If a god truly wanted to eliminate sin, it would eliminate itself from the equation. No more god to sin against - no more sin. That or announce that it's reconsidered the whole sin thing; and actually, working on the sabbath or making graven images aren't so bad after all. But of course the church needs the guilt card in its hand, or it has no power.

It's essentially the same reason why I, as an Englishman, am unable to commit the crime of blasphemy - because the concept of its being a crime has been removed from our statute books. Sure, others can object all they want about my giving their pet god the bird, but I cannot be touched for it.

Ok., suppose that.........No more god to sin against - no more sin...........then no karma no later punishment if we do commit a crime except if we are unlucky to be caught by the cops.

I guess it would be even better if there are no cops either so we can escape any punishment altogether isn't it ?

Gee, I never thought about it Cyb!  






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In the US we have more laws on the books than any other country, we also have more people incarcerated or under some kind of legal custody than in any other country. If the threat of impending punishment curtailed human propensity for evil, things here wold be rather different, don't you think?

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Life is all about finding and getting the real McCoy Cyb.
If God would not be silent and tell you where the real McCoy is and how to get it easily then life would have no meaning.

Oh yeah... that's why...

I think the church calls it the Holy Grail. At least when scientists were looking for the higgs boson they had a clear definition of what they were looking for and a universal consensus when they found it.