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Adam's Sin -- Independence and Revellion
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Adam's Sin -- Independence and Revellion
In examining the nature of Adam’s sin we discover that aside from rebellion there is also a certain kind of independence. We must not lose sight here of free will. On the one hand, the tree of life implies a sense of dependence. Man at that time did not possess God’s nature, but had he partaken of the fruit of the tree of life he could have secured God’s life; man could have reached his summit—possessing the very life of God. This is dependence. On the other hand, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil suggests independence because man strived by the exercise of his will for the knowledge not promised, for something not accorded him by God. His rebellion declared his independence. By rebelling he did not need to depend upon God. Furthermore, his seeking the knowledge of good and evil also showed his independence, for he was not satisfied with what God had bestowed already. The difference between the spiritual and the soulish is crystal clear. The spiritual depends utterly upon God, fully satisfied with what God has given; the soulish steers clear of God and covets what God has not conferred, especially “knowledge.” Independence is a special mark of the soulish. That thing—no matter how good, even worshiping God—is unquestionably of the soul if it does not require complete trust in God and instead calls for reliance upon one’s own strength. The tree of life cannot grow within us together with the tree of knowledge. Rebellion and independence explain every sin committed by both sinners and saints.
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RE: Adam's Sin -- Independence and Revellion
Yes, but the imaginary god of that myth also created humans with curiosity, created the entire universe but put the tree of forbidden knowledge in the garden with his two favourite naked pets, and then allowed the "serpent" into the garden, completely ignoring it or, worse knowing exactly what would happen.

Some all knowing deity you worship.

It would be like a human putting something precious to them in a fish tank, instead of somewhere else in the house, and then blaming the fish for getting it dirty.
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Plagiarism is frowned upon here. Trying to pass this off as yours won't fly to well. About what I'd expect from you.
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(May 16, 2017 at 4:19 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Plagiarism is frowned upon here. Trying to pass this off as yours won't fly to well. about what I'd expect from you.

Who's he stealing from?
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(May 16, 2017 at 4:37 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote:
(May 16, 2017 at 4:19 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Plagiarism is frowned upon here. Trying to pass this off as yours won't fly to well. about what I'd expect from you.

Who's he stealing from?

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Poor form.
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(May 16, 2017 at 5:19 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: Poor form.

...and even worse logic.
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RE: Adam's Sin -- Independence and Revellion
(May 16, 2017 at 3:31 pm)InteresedUser Wrote: In examining the nature of Adam’s sin we discover that aside from rebellion there is also a certain kind of independence. We must not lose sight here of free will. On the one hand, the tree of life implies a sense of dependence. Man at that time did not possess God’s nature, but had he partaken of the fruit of the tree of life he could have secured God’s life; man could have reached his summit—possessing the very life of God. This is dependence. On the other hand, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil suggests independence because man strived by the exercise of his will for the knowledge not promised, for something not accorded him by God. His rebellion declared his independence. By rebelling he did not need to depend upon God. Furthermore, his seeking the knowledge of good and evil also showed his independence, for he was not satisfied with what God had bestowed already. The difference between the spiritual and the soulish is crystal clear. The spiritual depends utterly upon God, fully satisfied with what God has given; the soulish steers clear of God and covets what God has not conferred, especially “knowledge.” Independence is a special mark of the soulish. That thing—no matter how good, even worshiping God—is unquestionably of the soul if it does not require complete trust in God and instead calls for reliance upon one’s own strength. The tree of life cannot grow within us together with the tree of knowledge. Rebellion and independence explain every sin committed by both sinners and saints.


Sorry I'm not experienced at criticizing literature plus I've never found the bible to be at all a page turner.
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(May 16, 2017 at 3:38 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Yes, but the imaginary god of that myth also created humans with curiosity, created the entire universe but put the tree of forbidden knowledge in the garden with his two favourite naked pets, and then allowed the "serpent" into the garden, completely ignoring it or, worse knowing exactly what would happen.

Some all knowing deity you worship.

It also has trouble locating the only two humans in the Universe, in the only habitable spot, because they're hiding behind a tree.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Adam's Sin -- Independence and Revellion
(May 16, 2017 at 4:19 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Plagiarism is frowned upon here. Trying to pass this off as yours won't fly to well. about what I'd expect from you.

Further more, posting someone else's rubbish as your own rubbish doesn't make the original rubbish any less rubbish-y. If you simply can't manage to muster any thoughts of your own, it is better to post a link and quote the relevant bits. I mean, it'll still be rubbish, but it's at least a more honest way of putting it on the board.

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