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Very short version of the long argument.
#61
RE: Very short version of the long argument.
(September 13, 2017 at 1:41 pm)Cyberman Wrote: We don't need fire or steam engines. That's not what I was saying. All living organisms, including humans, metabolise their own energy from the food they ingest and the insolation of the Sun's radiation. No consciousness required.

That's on the biological level that we need. But the conscious needs which are produced by our "moods", thoughts, dreams are the difference. Here is where fire and engines differ as unique productions of humanity, other biological forms don't have to "cook" or "use a torch to see in the dark". I don't even think they can make sense of "fast" and "slow", thus never needing an engine.
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#62
RE: Very short version of the long argument.
(September 12, 2017 at 1:49 am)Minimalist Wrote: The highest possible goodness is a blow job from a 10.

Wow. You just made me realize I'll probably never have that before I die. I'd be lucky to get one from a 5.

(September 12, 2017 at 2:19 am)MysticKnight Wrote: If who you are is objective knowledge to goodness, then it's not relative.

If what you have is objective knowledge of goodness, then God is not relevant.
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#63
RE: Very short version of the long argument.
(September 13, 2017 at 1:50 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(September 13, 2017 at 1:41 pm)Cyberman Wrote: We don't need fire or steam engines. That's not what I was saying. All living organisms, including humans, metabolise their own energy from the food they ingest and the insolation of the Sun's radiation. No consciousness required.

That's on the biological level that we need. But the conscious needs which are produced by our "moods", thoughts, dreams are the difference. Here is where fire and engines differ as unique productions of humanity, other biological forms don't have to "cook" or "use a torch to see in the dark". I don't even think they can make sense of "fast" and "slow", thus never needing an engine.

This is going way off the point I was clarifying.
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#64
RE: Very short version of the long argument.
short answer to the Very short version of the long argument:

Bullshit.

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"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#65
RE: Very short version of the long argument.
Shorter version of the short answer to the Very short version of the argument:

BS.
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#66
RE: Very short version of the long argument.
Looks like MK abandoned his thread yet again. Lather, rinse, repeat. *jerk off*
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#67
RE: Very short version of the long argument.
(September 13, 2017 at 2:36 pm)Hammy Wrote:
(September 12, 2017 at 1:49 am)Minimalist Wrote: The highest possible goodness is a blow job from a 10.

Wow. You just made me realize I'll probably never have that before I die. I'd be lucky to get one from a 5.

Hey, there's nothing wrong with the highest possible pretty damned good.

Plant a flag, declare victory, and revel in your good fortune when the time comes.
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#68
RE: Very short version of the long argument.
(September 14, 2017 at 11:33 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:
(September 13, 2017 at 2:36 pm)Hammy Wrote: Wow. You just made me realize I'll probably never have that before I die. I'd be lucky to get one from a 5.

Hey, there's nothing wrong with the highest possible pretty damned good.

Plant a flag, declare victory, and revel in your good fortune when if the time comes.

Fixed that for you.
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#69
RE: Very short version of the long argument.
(September 13, 2017 at 1:50 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(September 13, 2017 at 1:41 pm)Cyberman Wrote: We don't need fire or steam engines. That's not what I was saying. All living organisms, including humans, metabolise their own energy from the food they ingest and the insolation of the Sun's radiation. No consciousness required.

That's on the biological level that we need. But the conscious needs which are produced by our "moods", thoughts, dreams are the difference. Here is where fire and engines differ as unique productions of humanity, other biological forms don't have to "cook" or "use a torch to see in the dark".
Neither do we.  We enjoy cooked meat and light in the dark.......but then so do dogs, so?


Quote:I don't even think they can make sense of "fast" and "slow", thus never needing an engine.
....I'm pretty sure a cheetah has to understand relative velocity, and theres simply no relationship between understanding fast and slow and "needing an engine". None. Nada. Bupkiss. That's not even a coherent thought in a vacuum.

I sometimes wonder what it is you -are- trying to say, when I grant the generous assumption that you aren't a complete nutball, and whatever you mean is entirely lost in translation.
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