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Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 13, 2017 at 7:46 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: and for the last time .

THE BIBLE IS THE CLAIM !

NEVER THE EVIDENCE !


IF ONLY
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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 13, 2017 at 7:49 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:
(September 13, 2017 at 7:46 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: and for the last time .

THE BIBLE IS THE CLAIM !

NEVER THE EVIDENCE !

Well, I think we need to give them a pass on the special pleading thing, otherwise they won't have a jot or tittle to base their religion on, and then, deprived of purpose, we will have to shut down Atheist Forums.


Tongue

Give the fuckers an inch and they'll push you into the ovens.
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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 13, 2017 at 4:04 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(September 13, 2017 at 4:02 pm)TheBeardedDude Wrote: Those pesky facts get in the way of Steve's assertions about how strong "Christianity" was prior to Paul and the Romans (who had only really minor roles in Christianity, don't you know?)

ahhh.. .back to conspiracy theory

The history of christianity has been conspiratorial.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 13, 2017 at 1:59 pm)Secular Elf Wrote: The all powerful Judeo-Christian god, the ancient Canaanite war god, the supposed creator of the universe, did not lift one finger to save nine people in a church, IN A CHURCH, HIS CHURCH, from a white racist asshole.   There is some evidence for you.  What is one to think?  Either this supposed being does not exist, or it is a monster, or a racist, or both.

He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all--how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? - Romans 8:32


Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints. - Psalm 116:15
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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 13, 2017 at 5:14 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 13, 2017 at 5:02 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:  
Calling someone out for asserting something without evidence is not pushing a conspiracy theory.  Like...wut?

You guys have been making assertions without evidence pretty much this whole thread...

Shut up.  Adults are talking here.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 13, 2017 at 12:32 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Huggy, do you think if you had presented this case to Carl Sagan with the evidence you've presented here, he would have come to the conclusion that the light in your picture was, beyond reasonable doubt, caused by the Holy Spirit of the Christian God of The Bible?  Why, or why not?

No, Mr. Lacy didn't even draw that conclusion, but I do believe he would know the difference between supernatural and natural... which you clearly don't.

Branham is the one that said it was Jesus Christ, and not only that he demonstrated it.

Just know this, the evidence I presented in this thread is just the tip of the Iceberg, but there would be no point in taking it any further since it'd be lost on you yokels, heck there is a 30 some odd page thread with atheists arguing that Denmark had a secular government (which it doesn't)...

If they wouldn't accept evidence that contradicted their position on something that is easily proven and really not debatable, accepting evidence of the supernatural is completely out of the question.

Now you guys can no longer say that evidence has not been presented.
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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
How do you reckon anyone could tell the difference between the natural and the supernatural, if there were such a thing?  You assume that someone else could tell, can you?

-pst, evidence has not been presented. Your penchant for fairy photography isn't evidence. Though, I do appreciate that you contend that the magic can, indeed, be discovered by a camera. An object made of natural things in the natural world that somehow works as a god detector. Tell me, what part of the camera is capable of detecting the supernatural, and how does it do that? We understand it's use and function as regards the detection of natural phenomena......but how it captures the supernatural seems less well defined.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 14, 2017 at 11:36 am)Khemikal Wrote: How do you reckon anyone could tell the difference between the natural and the supernatural, if there were such a thing?  You assume that someone else could tell, can you?

-pst, evidence has not been presented.  Your penchant for fairy photography isn't evidence.  Though, I do appreciate that you contend that the magic can, indeed, be discovered by a camera.  An object made of natural things in the natural world that somehow works as a god detector.  Tell me, what part of the camera is capable of detecting the supernatural, and how does it do that?  We understand it's use and function as regards the detection of natural phenomena......but how it captures the supernatural seems less well defined.
*emphasis mine*

Are you playing dumb right now? The camera caught the light.. the light itself is no wonder, the fact that it can't be explained how the light is there is what makes it supernatural.

Light is light to the camera, supernatural or otherwise.
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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
The unexplained is, by default, in your estimation...supernatural?  

What's the difference between supernatural light and natural light? Can you tell the difference, since a camera can't specifically detect magic after all.....apparently?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 14, 2017 at 10:36 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 13, 2017 at 1:59 pm)Secular Elf Wrote: The all powerful Judeo-Christian god, the ancient Canaanite war god, the supposed creator of the universe, did not lift one finger to save nine people in a church, IN A CHURCH, HIS CHURCH, from a white racist asshole.   There is some evidence for you.  What is one to think?  Either this supposed being does not exist, or it is a monster, or a racist, or both.

He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all--how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? - Romans 8:32


Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints. - Psalm 116:15

Ooh.  Huggy opened his fucking bible and thinks anyone besides him cares.
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