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Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
(October 8, 2017 at 9:53 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: He's just a single-page, idiotic script playing in an endless loop.

Hmmm. He sounds distinctly like my balls.
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
(October 14, 2017 at 5:28 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote: After I read the first 8 pages of the thread I realized that "believe and do not doubt" is the smartest safety triger concieved.

But does it work? Apply your strategy to the Easter bunny, for example, what must we conclude?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
It concludes that you should not bother yourself with that.
You believe it ,good.
You don't believe it ,good.
Make the choice and move on .
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
Drich Wrote:Science is the study of what we understand and can duplicate. true but science is also an excersice in faith. (theories based on theories based on evidence that may or may not support anything theorized to date.

The reason science and faith have been separated is because 'scientists' Simply WANT to feel more legit than those of "common faith in God." But in the end scientific origins like any YEC version of origins is a demonstration in the same core faith.

Drich, bro isn't it time to upgrade your religion?

Don't you realize that archaic science/religion was upgraded into modern science centuries ago?

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Why did I upgraded my religion... to atheism?

Consider the following:

Modern science is used to build your phones, internet, cars, planes, supermarket items, hospitals, homes, buses, pharmaceutical goods, etc.

Modern science was once archaic science. (See reference {A}).

However, religion/myth was removed from modern science, when archaic science became modern science in the scientific revolution. (See reference {B})

An example is when astrology/myth was removed from/modern science. (See reference {C})

Question:

If religion/myth was supposedly useful/not worthless, why was it removed from modern science? Thinking

Quick references:

{A} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of..._antiquity

{B} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_revolution

{C} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology_and_astronomy
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
(October 14, 2017 at 8:39 pm)causal code Wrote: Just look how photorealistic this 4k game scene is (unreal engine 4)... can we create simulations with sentient software?

Meh. Id software has better player movement.
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
Quote:.It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite...
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Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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Now we have to silence him.

Unfortunate.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
(October 14, 2017 at 5:50 pm)Hammy Wrote:
(October 8, 2017 at 9:53 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: He's just a single-page, idiotic script playing in an endless loop.

Hmmm. He sounds distinctly like my balls.

What? Abused and overworked?
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
(October 14, 2017 at 11:28 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:.It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite...
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What Drich doesn't realise it that if scientists don't find what they are looking for then they don't have anything to publish. That's not the same as saying that scientists always find what they are funded to find. Most scientific research involves far more failed experiments than successful ones.

If a scientist tries to replicate the findings of another scientist and fails, then it's worthwhile writing up and publishing if they can demonstrate that it was not because of a mistake that they made.
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
(October 14, 2017 at 8:39 pm)causal code Wrote: Consider the following:

Modern science is used to build your phones, internet, cars, planes, supermarket items, hospitals, homes, buses, pharmaceutical goods, etc.

Modern science was once archaic science. (See reference {A}).

However, religion/myth was removed from modern science, when archaic science became modern science in the scientific revolution. (See reference {B})

An example is when astrology/myth was removed from/modern science. (See reference {C})

Well yeah these fanatical ignoramuses seem to repeat "how science changes" because they're just parroting lies they heard. The truth is that fundamental notion of matter and material processes has not been changed since the time of Newton which was over 300 hundred years ago. Newtonian mechanics is hardly useless today in 21 century in fact F=m×a still gets you to Mars and other places in the solar system. If these people were educated in schools instead of their homes and churches they would see that Newtonian physics is still what most students learn in physics classes and if they had actual jobs they would see it is what most engineers and others use when they apply physics in their professions.

So if they are really concerned to stay with the sturdy things they should stick to science unlike religion which only in Christianity changes on whims of their authorities. I mean like this one where characters in Monty Python discuss some of the unbridgeable gaps between Catholics and Protestants





Or take Anglicans like John Tillotson, Archbishop of Canterbury and Bishop Edward Stillingfleet who ridiculed Catholicism like the central doctrine doctrine which claims that the bread and wine used in the communion ceremony is changed in substance so that what is bread and wine to all the senses is really the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Christ. They said that it was an idiotic doctrine because if it looks like bread, smells like bread, tastes like bread, then it is bread. To them to believe otherwise is to give up the basis for all knowledge based on sense experience.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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