Emotions are intrinsically good and bad

[Edwardo Piet]

If you're rude, so am I, because I don't see how you're rude at all.

Emotional difficulties does not equate to the R word.  Shame on you for even thinking that.

Oh I wasn't being serious about being an R-Tard. This is kind of my point. I'm rarely serious. Serious is no fun.

And even though I don't believe in emotions... I do believe in fun. I think enjoyment and liking something is more fundamental than categorizing that enjoyment into an emotion. It's easy for me to know I like/dislike something. But knowing what emotion I am feeling feels like an impossible task.

I was rude at some point earlier. I forget what I said. But I was.

It's sad really because TD will find an intelligent and challenging conversation with me. I am well read in philosophy. But my silliness makes many people have assumptions about me.

And yet when I talk about the differences between the phenomenal world and the noumenal world people get bored to death.

[Foxaèr]

Oh I wasn't being serious about being an R-Tard. This is kind of my point. I'm rarely serious. Serious is no fun.

And even though I don't believe in emotions... I do believe in fun. I think enjoyment and liking something is more fundamental than categorizing that enjoyment into an emotion. It's easy for me to know I like/dislike something. But knowing what emotion I am feeling feels like an impossible task.

I was rude at some point earlier. I forget what I said. But I was.

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It's sad really because TD will find an intelligent and challenging conversation with me.

If TD can't see your value, screw her.

I think you're amazing, and that's all that matters.

[Edwardo Piet]

It's kind of annoying that Transcendent Dimensions is ignoring me. Even when I mentioned this:

Why even bother talking about 'positive emotions'? Surely one positive emotion is enough and the more intense you feel it, the more positive, the better.

IOW all you need is pleasure and you have to get your ass away from suffering. This leads to smile and laughter and you may find yourself labelling yourself as 'happy'. Whatever that means.

And I had a very good point.

[The Grand Nudger]

I think we've established that already...lol.  No amount of reading what I've already read is going to change my comments.  I'm asking you to point to a single value judgement that is clearly one or the other of your proposed categories.  Understand?  Without that, then the premise is unsound.

There were two categories I pointed out.  The 1st category was the thought form of value judgments.  These are value judgments that come about through our way of thinking such as thinking that it is a good day today or thinking something is horrible.  The 2nd category of value judgments would be the emotional value judgments.  These value judgments are the emotions themselves.  If you felt a positive emotion, then that is always a good emotional value judgment and if you felt a negative emotion, then that is always a bad emotional value judgment.  I have already explained this earlier in that post.  So, I am still not clear on what the problem here is.

No amount of reassertion will make any of the above true by fiat.  I -know- that you proposed as much....you've done it more than once, I was there....I've commented.

I'm awaiting an example that shows that this proposed division between thought and emotion actually exists.  Awaiting an example of a value judgement that is void of one or the other and possessed by someone, awaiting an example of a person who does not possess one or the other.

I'm awaiting some indication that your premise is sound....not asking for a reassertion.

Beyond that - regardless of whether or not there are such disparate categories in actuality, I possess both...like we all do, and yet I am not experiencing what you say I will - nor is the rest of humanity reporting such a phenomena......obviously something is amiss.........

Hammy, hold my beer, I gotta go smoke.

[Edwardo Piet]

If positive emotions really were good and negative emotions really were bad... then that means it would be correct to stay in a constant state of excitement at all times.... including if someone is attacking your wife with an axe. And don't you dare be angry because that's negative and intrsically bad

Fuck that shit. Negative emotions are often necessary to avoid suffering just as much as positive emotions are. And we don't need 'positive emotions' we just need to have fun and avoid suffering.

[Foxaèr]

If positive emotions really were good and negative emotions really were bad... then that means it would be correct to stay in a constant state of excitement at all times.... including if someone is attacking your wife with an axe. And don't you dare be angry because that's negative and intrsically bad

Fuck that shit. Negative emotions are often necessary to avoid suffering just as much as positive emotions are. And we don't need 'positive emotions' we just need to have fun and avoid suffering.

She's ignoring you because you're too smart for her. She has no idea how to respond to such brilliance.

[Edwardo Piet]

I'm not even trying. Which should be obvious. It's hard to take this shit seriously because I've already been where TD is before in the past.

I also swear like fuck, because it's fun, and I'm aware that swearing often comes across as a sign of unintelligence... BUT:

[Foxaèr]

I'm not even trying. Which should be obvious.

What was your username before Hammy?

I feel I should know you, but I can't figure out what your previous username was.

[Edwardo Piet]

I'm not even trying. Which should be obvious.

What was your username before Hammy?

I feel I should know you, but I can't figure out what your previous username was.

Alasdair Ham, Evie, EvidenceVersusFaith, HalcyonicTrust, DoubtVsFaith, EvidenceVsDelusion, EvidenceVsFaith.

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Hammy, hold my beer, I gotta go smoke.  

Do you seriously think I ever have a hand spare?

[Transcended Dimensions]

If you're rude, so am I, because I don't see how you're rude at all.

Emotional difficulties does not equate to the R word.  Shame on you for even thinking that.

Oh I wasn't being serious about being an R-Tard. This is kind of my point. I'm rarely serious. Serious is no fun.

And even though I don't believe in emotions... I do believe in fun. I think enjoyment and liking something is more fundamental than categorizing that enjoyment into an emotion. It's easy for me to know I like/dislike something. But knowing what emotion I am feeling feels like an impossible task.

I was rude at some point earlier. I forget what I said. But I was.

It's sad really because TD will find an intelligent and challenging conversation with me. I am well read in philosophy. But my silliness makes many people have assumptions about me.

And yet when I talk about the differences between the phenomenal world and the noumenal world people get bored to death.

I was currently focused on the discussion me and Khemikal were having. If you are willing to have this type of discussion, then I would be glad to have it.

There were two categories I pointed out.  The 1st category was the thought form of value judgments.  These are value judgments that come about through our way of thinking such as thinking that it is a good day today or thinking something is horrible.  The 2nd category of value judgments would be the emotional value judgments.  These value judgments are the emotions themselves.  If you felt a positive emotion, then that is always a good emotional value judgment and if you felt a negative emotion, then that is always a bad emotional value judgment.  I have already explained this earlier in that post.  So, I am still not clear on what the problem here is.

No amount of reassertion will make any of the above true by fiat.  I -know- that you proposed as much....you've done it more than once, I was there....I've commented.

I'm awaiting an example that shows that this proposed division between thought and emotion actually exists.  Awaiting an example of a value judgement that is void of one or the other and possessed by someone, awaiting an example of a person who does not possess one or the other.

I'm awaiting some indication that your premise is sound....not asking for a reassertion.

Beyond that - regardless of whether or not there are such disparate categories in actuality, I possess both...like we all do, and yet I am not experiencing what you say I will - nor is the rest of humanity reporting such a phenomena......obviously something is amiss.........

Hammy, hold my beer, I gotta go smoke.

You could have a positive emotion which is a good emotional value judgment while, at the same time, having a thought form of a good value judgment. I have never said that it would always be a situation where you would only have one or the other. However, there are times where you can have just one or the other. If you were in a mindless state and did not judge anything as good or bad while feeling bliss from a drug, then this would be an example of having an emotional good value judgment and not having any thought form of value judgment. Another example would be if you had a mental condition known as anhedonia which does not allow you to feel positive emotions. You could think that your life is good, but you would only be having a thought form of a good value judgment without the emotional good value judgment.