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Could I sue my religion over this?
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RE: Could I sue my religion over this?
(October 7, 2017 at 1:41 pm)Won2blv Wrote:
(October 7, 2017 at 11:54 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Honestly I'd be pretty pissed off too if I was pregnant and my husband was getting high all the time. The last thing I'd want is to raise a new child with a pot head dad.

I know that was super harsh and judgy on my part, but it makes me mad when men don't step up to the plate to be good fathers and the women have to raise a kid AND deal with BS from their child's father. I mean, the most basic thing a man can do as a dad is to stop abusing drugs.

As for suing your religion, I don't see how that's possible. If it's not doing anything positive for yourself or your life, and if you don't believe in it, I'd just leave.

I would just say that you should think before you judge who I am and how pot affects me. If I took lithium or some kind of antidepressant, I'm sure you wouldn't judge me the same way. How come you can label me as this or that, when you don't even know how it really affects me?

I apologize for my harsh delivery, but I stand by what I said. If you have mental health issues, please see a psychiatrist for proper treatment, at least for your daughter's sake if no one else's. Smoking weed on occasion is one thing. Doing it all the time when you have a 2 week old baby and a wife who takes issue with your constant smoking, is quite another.

Best of luck with everything. I hope your family, especially your daughter who is the innocent bystander, come out of this ok.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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#12
RE: Could I sue my religion over this?
(October 7, 2017 at 11:54 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Honestly I'd be pretty pissed off too if I was pregnant and my husband was getting high all the time. The last thing I'd want is to raise a new child with a pot head dad.

I know that was super harsh and judgy on my part, but it makes me mad when men don't step up to the plate to be good fathers and the women have to raise a kid AND deal with BS from their child's father. I mean, the most basic thing a man can do as a dad is to stop abusing drugs.

You are making assumptions here.

The OP hasn't said that he is abusing drugs, only that he uses weed. We do not know how many times he vapes and he does specifically say "never once has it caused me anger or a dangerous loss of self-functioning ability." And that he does it in a well ventilated area so he is clearly being considerate.

Just because someone uses weed doesn't mean to say that they are not stepping up to the plate or not being a good father any more than you could say that about someone that occasionally drinks wine.

Also the OP did say that he uses it for anxiety, not for recreational use. Although recreational use of pot is no worse than recreational use of alcohol.

You don't know how many times the OP uses cannabis or that he is high all the time or even that he is causing BS for the wife. Nor do we know that the wife isn't having the same conditioned reaction as you to the use of weed without consideration as to why the OP is using it in the first place.

It is worth bearing in mind that it is perfectly normal for people to use drugs to modulate their neurochemicals. Most people drink coffee to the point where they cannot function without it (I don't, it has a much stronger effect on my than cannabis). Most people drink alcohol to unwind. Cannabis was initially banned during the first world war to make the soldiers more effective and it is legally prescribed for medical use, and recreational use, in various countries.

You refer to the OP as a pot head but that's the equivalent of referring to anyone that is not completely tee-total as a drunkard.
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#13
RE: Could I sue my religion over this?
He says he uses it regularly, to the point of his wife taking issue, and admits he may have a problem. Plus, he has a 2 week old baby in the house. That kinda tells me everything i need to know right there.

Moms of new borns can't be smoking pot "regularly". There's no reason why the dad who has just as much responsibility to his child, should be either.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#14
RE: Could I sue my religion over this?
You joined knowing their rules, they can excommunicate you if they want. 

As to pot and the marriage/baby, pick your priority and then if you need to see if you can come to some kind of compromise.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#15
RE: Could I sue my religion over this?
(October 7, 2017 at 1:56 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: He says he uses it regularly, to the point of his wife taking issue, and admits he may have a problem. Plus, he has a 2 week old baby in the house. That kinda tells me everything i need to know right there.

But he also says:

(October 7, 2017 at 11:24 am)Won2blv Wrote: She did work with me but every fight started because of me using weed. I'm not even denying that I might have a problem, but as long as I was able to function in my day to day life, I figured it was safe. And I was. I managed my business and didn't cause any strife in my life.

Long story short, me and my wife have continued marital problems that are all centered around her not wanting me to use weed

So is it actually the weed that is the problem or the wife who has the problem with the weed? We don't know but the OP has specifically stated that the weed use in itself hasn't caused any problems, just how the wife views it.

(October 7, 2017 at 1:56 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Moms of new borns can't be smoking pot "regularly". There's no reason why the dad who has just as much responsibility to his child, should be either.

Irrelevant. My husband can't eat wheat yet I still do. I now have to give up all dairy, meat and saturated fats for medical reasons but I don't expect him to as well.

It only becomes relevant if the cannabis use is stopping him being responsible for the child but not once has the OP stated this. If this is indeed the case then yes, I agree that he should stop it.
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#16
RE: Could I sue my religion over this?
Listen, if youd be dandy with your husband and father of your new born baby getting high on a regular basis, more power to you. I would not. And it seems his wife doesn't either.

My advice to him? Shape the hell up. For your family, for your daughter. Not everyone is lucky enough to be parents.

He can take it or leave it i guess.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#17
RE: Could I sue my religion over this?
(October 7, 2017 at 1:52 pm)Mathilda Wrote:
(October 7, 2017 at 11:54 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Honestly I'd be pretty pissed off too if I was pregnant and my husband was getting high all the time. The last thing I'd want is to raise a new child with a pot head dad.

I know that was super harsh and judgy on my part, but it makes me mad when men don't step up to the plate to be good fathers and the women have to raise a kid AND deal with BS from their child's father. I mean, the most basic thing a man can do as a dad is to stop abusing drugs.

You are making assumptions here.

The OP hasn't said that he is abusing drugs, only that he uses weed. We do not know how many times he vapes and he does specifically say "never once has it caused me anger or a dangerous loss of self-functioning ability." And that he does it in a well ventilated area so he is clearly being considerate.

Just because someone uses weed doesn't mean to say that they are not stepping up to the plate or not being a good father any more than you could say that about someone that occasionally drinks wine.

Also the OP did say that he uses it for anxiety, not for recreational use. Although recreational use of pot is no worse than recreational use of alcohol.

You don't know how many times the OP uses cannabis or that he is high all the time or even that he is causing BS for the wife. Nor do we know that the wife isn't having the same conditioned reaction as you to the use of weed without consideration as to why the OP is using it in the first place.

It is worth bearing in mind that it is perfectly normal for people to use drugs to modulate their neurochemicals. Most people drink coffee to the point where they cannot function without it (I don't, it has a much stronger effect on my than cannabis). Most people drink alcohol to unwind. Cannabis was initially banned during the first world war to make the soldiers more effective and it is legally prescribed for medical use, and recreational use, in various countries.

You refer to the OP as a pot head but that's the equivalent of referring to anyone that is not completely tee-total as a drunkard.


C_L, did you catch the part I bolded?  Almost all medicines come from botanicals.  Pot has been shown to have beneficial effects for some conditions, anxiety included.  If you've never suffered from high anxiety yourself you may underestimate the seriousness of the condition he is suffering from.  Medicating with weed may well be something he is doing in order to step up more fully to his responsibilities.  If it helps, I say this as a person hasn't used it for more than thirty years, so I have no vested interest in its recreational use.
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#18
RE: Could I sue my religion over this?
Smoking weed doesn't stop you from being a responsible parent. IMO
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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#19
RE: Could I sue my religion over this?
(October 7, 2017 at 11:12 pm)Losty Wrote: Smoking weed doesn't stop you from being a responsible parent. IMO

I like to think of it as the thin green line that prevents some brats from being strangled at the dinner table.
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RE: Could I sue my religion over this?
(October 7, 2017 at 11:16 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote:
(October 7, 2017 at 11:12 pm)Losty Wrote: Smoking weed doesn't stop you from being a responsible parent. IMO

I like to think of it as the thin green line that prevents some brats from being strangled at the dinner table.

Lol. I've never smoked weed but I drink rum all the time. Some people might judge me as a mother for that. Fuck them.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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