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Bible reading
#61
RE: Bible reading
(October 18, 2017 at 4:06 pm)c152 Wrote: I made my argument falsifiable, not my fault you don't see what I'm getting at.

Dodge.

Quote:And yes, it's still immoral by our standards but apparently not by yours.

What do you mean by "our"? Atheists? That's a no shit Sherlock statement.
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#62
RE: Bible reading
Alpha Male's thought processes are clearly as goofy as his avatar.

Bounce Ball
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#63
RE: Bible reading
(October 18, 2017 at 5:27 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(October 18, 2017 at 4:06 pm)c152 Wrote: I made my argument falsifiable, not my fault you don't see what I'm getting at.

Dodge.

Says the guy who replied to this:

Quote:c152
Okay, now this is what raises such a myriad of issues in my view and I could go very far in pointing out all of the things that are immoral, illogical and implausible with it and how little this resembles the god of the bible. 
But since the thread is on the bible and it's interpretations I'll keep it there. Here we have a god who already knowing all the harm his book will cause humanity, already knowing that his words will be interpreted in so many ways that many people are bound to get it wrong and cause physical and psychological damage to them selves and others. He knows that the bible will be heavily edited, rewritten and changed over the years and used for harm and control yet he still does nothing about it. Omniscient and all powerful he still allows all this to happen, as if he intended it. This book, with all its nasty verses condoning slavery, rape, incest, death penalties, genocide, he gives it to his people knowing full well what they will do with it when he, as all powerful, certainly could have had the bible be impossible to misinterpret.
Now, one could argue that we have free will and that it is our fault for "misinterpreting" his words but no, this is not free will. This god is supposedly omniscient and all powerful (traits that aren't really in the bible in the first place) which means that he knows every thought and action in everyone of his creations before anyone is even alive. That is not free will, because he already know the path everyone will take and since he created everything then he created the circumstances that lead that person to make every decision in his or hers life, when he equally could have created different circumstances leading to other results which would have been equally apparent as free will.  The game is rigged from the start.
So the blame is with god, an immoral being that I highly doubt exists outside our heads.

With this:

Quote:Seriously, you were just leading up to the same old free will argument?  Booooorrrrrriiinnnnggggg.

But anyway, if God predetermined our every thought, then we don't exist as autonomous beings, and don't have rights to any particular treatment.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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#64
RE: Bible reading
As you quoted, after pointing out my disappointment, I made a substantive response which led to further discussion.

So you're implying it was a dodge because...?
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