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Christian genesis
#11
RE: Christian genesis
Lets see. This god creates something, tempts it on purpose, then punishes it and it's kind for the rest of time. 

Not really a good thing to believe in or worship.
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#12
RE: Christian genesis
(October 15, 2017 at 9:29 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Lets see. This god creates something, tempts it on purpose, then punishes it and it's kind for the rest of time. 

Not really a good thing to believe in or worship.

Yes but whitout knowledge of good and evil, Adam could have decided to comite suicide without knowing that is not a good thing . Maybe that was the purpose of the tamptation.
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#13
RE: Christian genesis
(October 15, 2017 at 9:35 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:
(October 15, 2017 at 9:29 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Lets see. This god creates something, tempts it on purpose, then punishes it and it's kind for the rest of time. 

Not really a good thing to believe in or worship.

Yes but whitout knowledge of good and evil, Adam could have decided to comite suicide without knowing that is not a good thing . Maybe that was the purpose of the tamptation.

Do you tempt a child with a toy or food saying it's the best thing ever then banish it from your care once tempted? Or do you not tempt it to do something wrong and instead teach?

Apparently adam and god had an ongoing conversation and adam could have asked or god could have taught. An omniscient god could have stopped a suicide or just made another adam. 

Not good reasoning.
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#14
RE: Christian genesis
I am an atheist. No gods exist. Everything in the bible was written by humans. I never ask "What did god mean by this story?" I always ask "What purpose did this story serve the writers?' I also wonder why this ancient drivel is so real to modern humans.
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#15
RE: Christian genesis
(October 15, 2017 at 8:46 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:
(October 15, 2017 at 8:39 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Forbidden knowledge is the heart of many religions.

Didn't sayed it was forbbiden, I sayed that Adam wanted to learn it without him.

And?
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#16
RE: Christian genesis
(October 15, 2017 at 9:44 am)mh.brewer Wrote:
(October 15, 2017 at 9:35 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: Yes but whitout knowledge of good and evil, Adam could have decided to comite suicide without knowing that is not a good thing . Maybe that was the purpose of the tamptation.

Do you tempt a child with a toy or food saying it's the best thing ever then banish it from your care once tempted? Or do you not tempt it to do something wrong and instead teach?

Apparently adam and god had an ongoing conversation and adam could have asked or god could have taught. An omniscient god could have stopped a suicide or just made another adam. 

Not good reasoning.
He could have created him again , but why create again and again a beeing that lacks the same atribute , the knowing of good and evil :-?
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#17
RE: Christian genesis
(October 15, 2017 at 9:52 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: He could have created him again , but why create again and again a beeing that lacks the same atribute , the knowing of good and evil :-?

Doesn't that only mean that god is not a very adept creator or teacher?
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#18
RE: Christian genesis
(October 15, 2017 at 9:47 am)chimp3 Wrote: I am an atheist. No gods exist. Everything in the bible was written by humans. I never ask "What did god mean by this story?" I always ask "What purpose did this story serve the writers?' I also wonder why this ancient drivel is so real to modern humans.

Hmm, whitout the biblical context , that is wise to stay by the side of the teacher ,although you don t really need him , things will go a lot faster with him around.
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#19
RE: Christian genesis
(October 15, 2017 at 9:57 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:
(October 15, 2017 at 9:47 am)chimp3 Wrote: I am an atheist. No gods exist. Everything in the bible was written by humans. I never ask "What did god mean by this story?" I always ask "What purpose did this story serve the writers?' I also wonder why this ancient drivel is so real to modern humans.

Hmm, whitout the biblical context , that is wise to stay by the side of the teacher ,although you don t really need him , things will go a lot faster with him around.
I provided you the biblical context as a human creation. So is your imaginary teacher. Have you ever considered that your god does not know anything that its human creators do not?
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#20
RE: Christian genesis
(October 15, 2017 at 10:01 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(October 15, 2017 at 9:57 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: Hmm, whitout the biblical context , that is wise to stay by the side of the teacher ,although you don t really need him , things will go a lot faster with him around.
I provided you the biblical context as a human creation. So is your imaginary teacher. Have you ever considered that your god does not know anything that its human creators do not?

When i sayed teacher i reffered to a human teacher , without supernatural conotations .
It is a posibility that in terms of science he wouldn't know more than us , but in term of good and right he has perfection.

(October 15, 2017 at 9:56 am)mh.brewer Wrote:
(October 15, 2017 at 9:52 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: He could have created him again , but why create again and again a beeing that lacks the same atribute , the knowing of good and evil :-?

Doesn't that only mean that god is not a very adept creator or teacher?

I think that is where free will comes up , the only thing independent of God.
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