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Christian genesis
#41
RE: Christian genesis
In the story, God not only knows everything that will happen, but God sets all of the initial conditions so everything that happens is a result of how God set everything up. Adam and Eve acted as they did because God made them to act that way, since he KNEW they would act that way and if God has free will, he could have made them differently, and they would have made different choices, that God would also know in advance. If God created the universe, God's responsible for how it turned out not his pitiful creations who can only do what he created them to do.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#42
RE: Christian genesis
"God" also pronounced all of his work "good" and then couldn't think of anything else to do but drown all the motherfuckers.  Some "god."
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#43
RE: Christian genesis
The real problem that is bothering me right now is not God anymore.
From what it was said from the omniscience point of view : If an observer who knows all about me it is capable to know my exact future through some kind of probability system it also means that nothing in me fundamently changes so I didn't had free will with or without the observer.
So free will can't be the ability to chose your future but to alter it .
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#44
RE: Christian genesis
(October 15, 2017 at 6:25 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote: The real problem that is bothering me right now is not God anymore.
From what it was said from the omniscience point of view : If an observer who knows all about me it is capable to know my exact future through some kind of probability system it also means that nothing in me fundamently changes so I didn't had free will with or without the observer.
So free will can't be the ability to chose your future but to alter it .

Free will without a god = debatable. Free will with a god = delusion.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#45
RE: Christian genesis
(October 15, 2017 at 6:51 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(October 15, 2017 at 6:25 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote: The real problem that is bothering me right now is not God anymore.
From what it was said from the omniscience point of view : If an observer who knows all about me it is capable to know my exact future through some kind of probability system it also means that nothing in me fundamently changes so I didn't had free will with or without the observer.
So free will can't be the ability to chose your future but to alter it .

Free will without a god = debatable. Free will with a god = delusion.

As you defined the omniscience , god wasn't important in the equation , because free will wasn't there to begin with
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#46
RE: Christian genesis
(October 15, 2017 at 8:29 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: Now I just thinked of a interpretation.
We all know that God banished Adam from Eden because he chosed to bite the apple from the knowledge tree.I think it is because he had arrogance and disrespected the teacher , because when he bitted the apple he chose that he doesn't need God to have knowledge, this is partialy true because he didn't need him to learn but it will take a lot more time than accepting that he needed Gods help, wich is an ilogical way . Because God didn t denied Adam knowledge , he didn't denied that he could know more than him but still Adam chose that he didn't needed him.
And that s probably why God doesn't help because Adam chose the life without the teacher. 
What are your opinions on this ?

That its a stupid fairy tale and you ought to try spellcheck.

(October 15, 2017 at 9:15 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:
(October 15, 2017 at 9:08 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: Fanfiction is a fan's reinterpretation of any fictional novel or setting. Since the bible is series of very loosely tied fictions, you're fan interpretation of it is fanfiction.
This could be , but I don't believe in religion I believe in God so I try to define him a little(futile of course but an entertaining exercise).Before you say  that God is fiction, you need to know that you can't be certain on that subject . I can't be certain that it exists you can't be certain that it doesn't. The difference is just what kind of aproache we chose .

What would prove to you that you are wrong and god doesn't exist?
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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