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RE: God's Child(ren)?
November 15, 2010 at 3:23 am
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(November 15, 2010 at 12:14 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 13, 2010 at 2:38 am)Loki_999 Wrote: (November 12, 2010 at 4:15 pm)theophilus Wrote: I agree that Mohammed can't be the antichrist but many Muslims believe that a person known as the Mahdi will appear to place the entire world under the control of Islam.
Ah, yes, that would be the messiah then. What are you waiting for? Convert to Islam before its too late and God sends you to hell for eternity for getting it wrong!
Theophilus did not get it wrong, funny how it works out don't you think, those who stand on the wrong side seem to never see or understand they are on the wrong side and those who are on the right side always seem to know they are on the right side, Theo and I have chosen to stand with Christ which is the right side to be on. Oh yes I understand that this statement could be flip flopped, but flip flopping someone's statement does not make one right.
Could the contemptible tantrum in the form of "I am right just because" get any more pathetic than the example above?
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RE: God's Child(ren)?
November 15, 2010 at 12:26 pm
(November 15, 2010 at 3:23 am)Chuck Wrote: (November 15, 2010 at 12:14 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 13, 2010 at 2:38 am)Loki_999 Wrote: (November 12, 2010 at 4:15 pm)theophilus Wrote: I agree that Mohammed can't be the antichrist but many Muslims believe that a person known as the Mahdi will appear to place the entire world under the control of Islam.
Ah, yes, that would be the messiah then. What are you waiting for? Convert to Islam before its too late and God sends you to hell for eternity for getting it wrong!
Theophilus did not get it wrong, funny how it works out don't you think, those who stand on the wrong side seem to never see or understand they are on the wrong side and those who are on the right side always seem to know they are on the right side, Theo and I have chosen to stand with Christ which is the right side to be on. Oh yes I understand that this statement could be flip flopped, but flip flopping someone's statement does not make one right.
Could the contemptible tantrum in the form of "I am right just because" get any more pathetic than the example above?
Yes Chuck it could, not that I agree with your pathetic statement, your statement is contemptible and is spurred by anger. I gave my opinion about Theophilus and myself sorry if that brought out this angry statement you wrote.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: God's Child(ren)?
November 15, 2010 at 1:24 pm
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(November 15, 2010 at 12:26 pm)Godschild Wrote: Yes Chuck it could, not that I agree with your pathetic statement, your statement is contemptible and is spurred by anger. I gave my opinion about Theophilus and myself sorry if that brought out this angry statement you wrote.
I am not angry at all, manschild, just amused by and contemptious of your lack of intellectual even-handedness. You effectively said that it doesn't matter to you that your opponent can make exactly the same argument in support of his position as you did in yours, you are right and he is wrong. I find this beneath contempt in an adult.
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RE: God's Child(ren)?
November 15, 2010 at 5:51 pm
(November 15, 2010 at 1:24 pm)Chuck Wrote: (November 15, 2010 at 12:26 pm)Godschild Wrote: Yes Chuck it could, not that I agree with your pathetic statement, your statement is contemptible and is spurred by anger. I gave my opinion about Theophilus and myself sorry if that brought out this angry statement you wrote.
I am not angry at all, manschild, just amused by and contemptious of your lack of intellectual even-handedness. You effectively said that it doesn't matter to you that your opponent can make exactly the same argument in support of his position as you did in yours, you are right and he is wrong. I find this beneath contempt in an adult.
Sorry you feel that way but my original statement is correct no matter what you think.
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RE: God's Child(ren)?
November 16, 2010 at 3:07 pm
(November 15, 2010 at 5:51 pm)Godschild Wrote: Sorry you feel that way but my original statement is correct no matter what you think.
And with this ridiculous statement, the thread devolved into a vortex of "Is not" & "Are too".
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RE: God's Child(ren)?
November 16, 2010 at 5:01 pm
(November 11, 2010 at 3:04 pm)theophilus Wrote: (November 9, 2010 at 4:57 pm)Loki_999 Wrote: But Islam also holds the tradition of a messiah and it ain't Jesus. The Bible predicts that there will be a false messiah known as the antichrist. Some people think that this is the same person as the Muslim messiah.
Wouldn't that be Muhammad, since Muslims believe that he is the last prophet? By definition of Islam, there can be no further prophets. A future Islamic prophet would be rejected by Muslims.
If it is supposed to be Muhammad, that was circa 1,500 years ago. The world didn't come to an end. So I guess no sale as far as fulfillment of prophecy there.
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RE: God's Child(ren)?
November 17, 2010 at 2:12 pm
(November 16, 2010 at 5:01 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Wouldn't that be Muhammad, since Muslims believe that he is the last prophet? By definition of Islam, there can be no further prophets. A future Islamic prophet would be rejected by Muslims. This seems to be a reasonable conclusion but in fact many Moslems are waiting for another leader.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/J..._mahdi.htm
The president of Iran apparently believes in him. Quote:Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad surprised not only many Westerners but also many Iranians when, during his first speech at the United Nations, he prayed for the hasty return of the Hidden Imam, the Mahdi, Shi‘i Islam's messianic figure. Demonstrating his priorities, he repeated the prayer in December 2007 when addressing Arab leaders at the Gulf Cooperation Council meeting in Doha but did not object when they described the Persian Gulf as Arab, a diplomatic swipe at Iran's place in the region. Ahmadinejad's messianism is no ploy; it is very serious indeed. Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati, chairman of the Guardian Council, credits Ahmadinejad with "being inspired by God."
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Some people have suggested that the reason he promotes was so much is that he believes the Mahdi will return at a time when there is worldwide chaos.
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RE: God's Child(ren)?
November 17, 2010 at 3:37 pm
(November 16, 2010 at 3:07 pm)Jaysyn Wrote: And with this ridiculous statement, the thread devolved into a vortex of "Is not" & "Are too".
Curse their infallible debating skills!
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RE: God's Child(ren)?
November 17, 2010 at 3:56 pm
(November 17, 2010 at 2:12 pm)theophilus Wrote: This seems to be a reasonable conclusion but in fact many Moslems are waiting for another leader.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/J..._mahdi.htm
A few excerpts from this page:
"The coming of the Mahdi is the central crowning element of all Islamic end-time narratives."
"The Mahdi will establish right and justice in the world and eliminate evil and corruption. He will fight against the enemies of the Muslims who would be victorious."
"He will lead Muslims in many battles of jihad...Many battles will ensue between Muslims and the disbelievers during the Mahdi’s reign…The Mahdi will invade all the places between East and West."
End-times? Sounds like fun times to me. Except for this part:
"Al Mahdi appears, everyone only talks about Him, drinks the love of Him, and never talks about anything other than Him."
I'm not drinkin' that.
The author of the article also says " Jews are waiting for the Messiah, Christians are waiting for Jesus, and Muslims are waiting for both the Mahdi and Jesus. All religions describe them as men coming to save the world."
And they will all wait until hell freezes over before any one of these fuckers shows up.
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RE: God's Child(ren)?
November 18, 2010 at 4:33 am
(November 17, 2010 at 3:56 pm)Strongbad Wrote: The author of the article also says "Jews are waiting for the Messiah, Christians are waiting for Jesus, and Muslims are waiting for both the Mahdi and Jesus. All religions describe them as men coming to save the world."
And they will all wait until hell freezes over before any one of these fuckers shows up.
And the world needs saving exactly how? Oh yeah, got it. God is an Earth God like Gaia. He is going to do the rapture thing to get rid of all the parasitic humans living on it and fucking up the planet. Then the earth will be free for the rest of the specieses (how the hell do you pluralize species?!) to get on with their lives.
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