Student sits during pledge of allegiance; gets chair kicked out from beneath him
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Student sits during pledge of allegiance; gets chair kicked out from beneath him
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October 25, 2017 at 4:06 pm
Yeah I don't agree with CL's opinions on not standing for the pledge, but she never defended the student who kicked the chair, she just said that what the sitting student did was disrespectful. Thinking someone is disrespectful doesn't mean you want to see them kicked to the ground...
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October 25, 2017 at 4:07 pm
If I could go back in time knowing what I know now, I'd never again stand in school for the pledge of allegiance.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter  RE: Student sits during pledge of allegiance; gets chair kicked out from beneath him
October 25, 2017 at 4:14 pm
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2017 at 4:16 pm by Crossless2.0.)
(October 25, 2017 at 4:02 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(October 25, 2017 at 3:58 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: It's in the thread title. I'm just the guy pointing out the act of violence that the thread is ostensibly about. But just out of curiosity, how would you react if you saw someone you know to be a veteran act that way? Would their indignation make it ok? Let's assume the seated guy wasn't doing so out of religious conviction or as an act of protest but was just too lazy or indifferent to stand. Would something that is technically assault and battery be justified because a vet felt disrespected? [Edited to add]: Looking back, I can see how it might have seemed I joined in suggesting CL was defending the act in the OP. That really wasn't my intention when I referenced the thread title. 
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 Leader of the gang of jerkoffs(tm)  Religious Views: L'Uomo verrà portato dalla sua creazione RE: Student sits during pledge of allegiance; gets chair kicked out from beneath him
October 25, 2017 at 4:15 pm
(October 25, 2017 at 4:02 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I say "people have the right to stay seated if they want, however, i do find it disrespectful if they stay seated simply because they cant be bothered to stand." As I am able to understand your notion of respect as defending a cowardly act.  RE: Student sits during pledge of allegiance; gets chair kicked out from beneath him
October 25, 2017 at 4:19 pm
Forced patriotism is the best patriotism.....
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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October 25, 2017 at 4:19 pm
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2017 at 4:20 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(October 25, 2017 at 4:14 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote:(October 25, 2017 at 4:02 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I say "people have the right to stay seated if they want, however, i do find it disrespectful if they stay seated simply because they cant be bothered to stand." To clarify, are you asking me if I think it's ok for a veteran to assault and batter someone for not standing up for the pledge??
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
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Leader of the gang of jerkoffs(tm) Religious Views: L'Uomo verrà portato dalla sua creazione RE: Student sits during pledge of allegiance; gets chair kicked out from beneath him
October 25, 2017 at 4:20 pm
(October 25, 2017 at 4:06 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Yeah I don't agree with CL's opinions on not standing for the pledge, but she never defended the student who kicked the chair, she just said that what the sitting student did was disrespectful. Thinking someone is disrespectful doesn't mean you want to see them kicked to the ground... Enough people find dumb things to feel disrespected about, and someone will find popular support to enact whatever wants to do. I guess respect has different meanings across the globe. Or Nationalistic BS is growing again. RE: Student sits during pledge of allegiance; gets chair kicked out from beneath him
October 25, 2017 at 4:23 pm
(October 25, 2017 at 4:19 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Forced patriotism is the best patriotism..... Indeed, and the bully's family is probably congratulating him because he most likely learned zealous patriotism from them.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter RE: Student sits during pledge of allegiance; gets chair kicked out from beneath him
October 25, 2017 at 4:23 pm
CL I know everyone is responding to you right now, but when you get a chance I'd really like to hear your response to the points I raised here: https://atheistforums.org/thread-51837-p...pid1644846
RE: Student sits during pledge of allegiance; gets chair kicked out from beneath him
October 25, 2017 at 4:24 pm
(October 25, 2017 at 4:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(October 25, 2017 at 4:14 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: I'm just the guy pointing out the act of violence that the thread is ostensibly about. Yes, assuming the person who doesn't stand isn't doing so out of some religious conviction or as a form of protest. I'm trying to gauge where the line is when it comes to socially coerced shows of "patriotic respect". |
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