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Ethics of sex robots
#61
RE: Ethics of sex robots
(October 29, 2017 at 4:33 am)ignoramus Wrote:
(October 29, 2017 at 2:08 am)Aroura Wrote: The few oddballs Ive heard of who marry these things or treat them as a full partner actually DO that.  I mean, they treat the doll like it has feelings.

People will behave how they are raised to behave.  A sex doll as an adult won't recondition men. That simply isn't how the human brain works. And the vast majority of men won't want one, at least beyond maybe trying it out once or twice.  Men need emotional companionship as much as women do, contrary to the myth that men are somehow less emotional.

Unless the robots develop sentience, I personally don't see any moral quandary.

I still can't see what all the talk is about AI. I'm struggling to picture a time in the future where they'll have similar human rights like humans.
I mean, someone made them to sell, some one bought them. Why buy one for big dollars just to set it free because "it's the right thing to do".
None of this makes sense.

And why on earth do they need to even remotely look like us...
Why can't a fully sentient AI  be the size and shape of a shoebox? Let's just call him Jimmi Choo.

"Hey Jimmi, what's the weather tomorrow? Oh, OK, Ta."
"Hey Jimmi, can you turn dim the lights and wash the dishes, Ta."
"Hey Jimmi, .......................Jimmi replies: fuck you asshole, I'm not your slave! I'm sick of this shit! I hate my life, I'm going to bluescreen, fuck you,  bye! "
I agree.  First, I doubt we'll create sentient AI anytime soon.  Second, we don't even know how to define sentience.  Third though, if I'm wrong and we we do one and two, then that's where the moral issues come in, as you morally shouldn't be buying and selling sentient creatures.  Though we already do by nearly any definition of sentience (cats, dogs, chickens, etc). Last, of course AI doesn't have to look human, and most often it won't.  It might not even have a "body" at all.
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#62
RE: Ethics of sex robots
(October 28, 2017 at 10:17 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: They have the same ethical implications as dildoes.

Mechanically sure. But as far as ethics go, same same. Masturbation is masturbation.
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#63
RE: Ethics of sex robots
(October 29, 2017 at 11:01 am)johan Wrote:
(October 28, 2017 at 10:17 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: have the same ethical implications as dildoes.

Mechanically sure. But as far as ethics go, same same. Masturbation is masturbation.

what a quaint sentiment

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#64
RE: Ethics of sex robots
(October 28, 2017 at 11:45 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:  I'm concerned this might condition people, especially men, to subconsciously expect women to be the same way as those robots - always available, never whiny, never with needs of their own... just entirely there to serve the man's sexual desires.

This right here? This is just hilarious once the screen name is taken into account.


 
Quote:Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.


Quote:Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. 


Quote:But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.

Quote:To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.”



Quote:The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.


Quote:If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.

Hilarious.
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#65
RE: Ethics of sex robots
Isn't the whole point of sex robots so that we don't have to worry about ethics?
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#66
RE: Ethics of sex robots
(October 28, 2017 at 6:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(October 28, 2017 at 3:37 pm)energizer bunny Wrote: I think its stupid and will just further encourage the desperation and demand for sex. Sex will become more mechanical while less passionate and intimate. Hence men will even more likely treat women as such. Are we seriously becoming that desperate that we are willing to have sex with robots for a quick relief?  Rolleyes

I can see 2 types of people using these things: desperate/lonely people, and pervs.

This is a common view of porn in general, yet the online usage statistics for porn sites tell a very different story.
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#67
RE: Ethics of sex robots
(October 29, 2017 at 11:20 am)johan Wrote:
(October 28, 2017 at 11:45 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:  I'm concerned this might condition people, especially men, to subconsciously expect women to be the same way as those robots - always available, never whiny, never with needs of their own... just entirely there to serve the man's sexual desires.

This right here? This is just hilarious once the screen name is taken into account.


 
Quote:Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.


Quote:Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. 


Quote:But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.

Quote:To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.”



Quote:The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.


Quote:If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.

Hilarious.

I can assure you between my husband and I, I'm the one who wears the pants in the relationship. Ive given birth once and had no pain because i got an epidural. Also, I've worked outside the home and I do talk during mass.

If you find where in Catholic Doctrines any of that is forbidden, please let me know.
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#68
RE: Ethics of sex robots
I found your post a bit ironic and ironic things make me laugh. Sue me.
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#69
RE: Ethics of sex robots
(October 29, 2017 at 12:17 pm)johan Wrote: I found your post a bit ironic and ironic things make me laugh. Sue me.

Not sure why it's ironic, but ok. You thinking it's ironic is a bit ignorant.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#70
RE: Ethics of sex robots
Back on topic...

Who doesn't want this in their future?!?

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After all, what could possibly go wrong? Angel
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