Comfort

[downbeatplumb]

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Are atheists are too egotistical(like theists like to say) to let go of their personal comfort for the idealistic/perfect ideas of theism where everybody strive to get in heaven by doing "good deeds"?

Interesting

I thought works were insufficient for getting into "heaven", that belief was enough?

Oh well, in that case, as a blood donor I've saved more lives than I can know; but since my absence of belief isn't a barrier, I've already got my ticket for the pearly gates.

We who faint every time we have a blood test salute you.

Seriously I get all pale and weak and have come close to passing when they've taken a thimble full.

[Abaddon_ire]

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Are atheists are too egotistical(like theists like to say) to let go of their personal comfort for the idealistic/perfect ideas of theism where everybody strive to get in heaven by doing "good deeds"? Is science is used just to guard personal earthly comfort by saying "It a scam there is no heaven".

No.

That would be the comedy version of atheism with whom believers have married and raised a family of false claims.

[brewer]

The scam is what the religious have done with the concept.

Mh.brewer for how many years you have been in religion? What was the worst part?

That's hard to put a number on. I left evangelical lutheranism when I was 13. I'm sure I didn't understand any of it until about age 5. I recall the nicey nice songs and stories. You know, the brain wash days. Noah's flood was a good thing, Samson and David were hero's. Moses was the magical wizard leader of freedom. Jesus did even more magic. It was all unconditional love which would save me from evil. 

Then, as time passed, there was a slow and subtle turn from life is wonderful if you do believe to life will be pain and torture if you don't believe. 

About age 11 or 12 the questions started for which I was given poor or no answers and I was told by the junior pastor "don't question, just believe". I started to recognize the religious hypocrisy in my parents and other adult members (do as I say not as I do). I also recognized the manipulation of members by the church pastors. At the end it all came down to belief in either ultimate reward or punishment. I just couldn't by the premise any more. 

So, at 13, I started walking out on services. My parents got the hint.

Worst parts: heard mentality, hypocrisy, manipulation.

[purplepurpose]

Mh.brewer for how many years you have been in religion? What was the worst part?

Worst parts: heard mentality, hypocrisy, manipulation.

How many years passed since you left?

[Abaddon_ire]

Worst parts: heard mentality, hypocrisy, manipulation.

How many years passed since you left?

Why on earth would that matter?

[Minimalist]

where everybody strive to get in heaven by doing "good deeds"?

Bullshit.




Fucking sheep.

[Cyberman]

How many years passed since you left?

Why on earth would that matter?

I'd be tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt; however my prophet-sense is tingling that he wants to try the old "atheists are bitter at religion because they were damaged by it when they were young" canard. I do hope he proves me wrong.

[purplepurpose]

Why on earth would that matter?

I'd be tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt; however my prophet-sense is tingling that he wants to try the old "atheists are bitter at religion because they were damaged by it when they were young" canard. I do hope he proves me wrong.

It would be interesting to hear how many years passed to the current point of him still arguing about religion.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I'd be tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt; however my prophet-sense is tingling that he wants to try the old "atheists are bitter at religion because they were damaged by it when they were young" canard. I do hope he proves me wrong.

It would be interesting to hear how many years passed to the current point of him still arguing about religion.

I'm not sure that the number of years one is out of a religion has any bearing on continuing to argue against religion.  Once can still speak out about the cruelty and injustice inherent in religious practice whether one left religion five years ago or fifty.

Boru

[brewer]

Worst parts: heard mentality, hypocrisy, manipulation.

How many years passed since you left?

No fuckin MATH!  hehehehehe  I'm now 60.

Arguing, nope, just discussing. If you want to be religious then be religious, it's no skin off my teeth. But your religion should stop where my nose starts. Unfortunately in the US that sentiment is not often adhered to by the religious. That's where the arguing may start.