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Comfort
November 5, 2017 at 7:52 am
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Are atheists are too egotistical(like theists like to say) to let go of their personal comfort for the idealistic/perfect ideas of theism where everybody strive to get in heaven by doing "good deeds"? Is science is used just to guard personal earthly comfort by saying "It a scam there is no heaven".
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RE: Comfort
November 5, 2017 at 7:55 am
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RE: Comfort
November 5, 2017 at 7:58 am
Well science brings comfort not the other way arround. It is a secondary effect not the goal. You need comfort for personal development.
You missunderstant the term comfort , comfort is needed soo that you could engage in " carrying a cross".
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RE: Comfort
November 5, 2017 at 8:01 am
(November 5, 2017 at 7:52 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Are atheists simply wish to hold on to the earthly comfortable life and not trade it for "carrying a cross" idea? Is science is used by atheists to defend their comfort? Feels like in terms of life goals theism has an upper hand against atheism.
In my dad's case surely not, he is very into religion, yet he's stressed most of the time.
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RE: Comfort
November 5, 2017 at 8:05 am
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Quote:Are atheists are too egotistical(like theists like to say) to let go of their personal comfort for the idealistic/perfect ideas of theism where everybody strive to get in heaven by doing "good deeds"?
I don't presume to speak for other atheists, but that describes me to a T.
Quote:Is science is used just to guard personal earthly comfort by saying "It a scam there is no heaven".
Science has a lot of uses, but if by 'comfort' you mean things like improving the human condition, that is certainly one of the uses to which we put science.
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RE: Comfort
November 5, 2017 at 8:14 am
(November 5, 2017 at 7:52 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Edit:
Are atheists are too egotistical(like theists like to say) to let go of their personal comfort for the idealistic/perfect ideas of theism where everybody strive to get in heaven by doing "good deeds"? Is science is used just to guard personal earthly comfort by saying "It a scam there is no heaven".
It is not fair to change the original post, you should have respondend to our posts
1. How is doing good deeds to get in heaven not egotistical?
2. If it weren't for science you wouldn't have the personal earthly comfort to wright on this forum or to watch tv or to relax or to improve yourself etc.
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RE: Comfort
November 5, 2017 at 8:25 am
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(November 5, 2017 at 8:14 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: (November 5, 2017 at 7:52 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Edit:
Are atheists are too egotistical(like theists like to say) to let go of their personal comfort for the idealistic/perfect ideas of theism where everybody strive to get in heaven by doing "good deeds"? Is science is used just to guard personal earthly comfort by saying "It a scam there is no heaven".
It is not fair to change the original post, you should have respondend to our posts
1. How is doing good deeds to get in heaven not egotistical?
2. If it weren't for science you wouldn't have the personal earthly comfort to wright on this forum or to watch tv or to relax or to improve yourself etc.
I think so many people are in religion because heaven is higher idea than plain survival no matter how you look it, even if its not perfect. That's might be the reason so many atheists cannot let go of religion by laughing and mocking it or attack it and not able to forget it. And again, I'm guessing that science is used to forget about better ideas of religion.
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RE: Comfort
November 5, 2017 at 8:32 am
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(November 5, 2017 at 8:25 am)purplepurpose Wrote: (November 5, 2017 at 8:14 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: It is not fair to change the original post, you should have respondend to our posts
1. How is doing good deeds to get in heaven not egotistical?
2. If it weren't for science you wouldn't have the personal earthly comfort to wright on this forum or to watch tv or to relax or to improve yourself etc.
I think so many people are in religion because heaven is better than plain survival no matter how you look it, even if its not perfect. That's might be the reason so many atheists cannot let go of religion and laugh and mock it/attack it and not able to forget it. And again, I'm guessing that science is used to forget about better ideas of religion.
That is a barrier of knowledge in a way , because they can't see how life could have meaning without after life that is why it seems better .
I think it is a missplacement of hatred , actually hating the people that indoctrinate through religion.
Not really ,science just gives life comfort when it comes to day to day life. It depends on you to chose what to do with that comfort. I don't see how it could be used to wipe moral ideas of religion.
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RE: Comfort
November 5, 2017 at 8:43 am
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(November 5, 2017 at 8:32 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: (November 5, 2017 at 8:25 am)purplepurpose Wrote: I think so many people are in religion because heaven is better than plain survival no matter how you look it, even if its not perfect. That's might be the reason so many atheists cannot let go of religion and laugh and mock it/attack it and not able to forget it. And again, I'm guessing that science is used to forget about better ideas of religion.
That is a barrier of knowledge in a way , because they can't see how life could have meaning without after life that is why it seems better .
I think it is a missplacement of hatred , actually hating the people that indoctrinate through religion.
Not really ,science just gives life comfort when it comes to day to day life. It depends on you to chose what to do with that comfort. I don't see how it could be used to wipe moral ideas of religion.
If you cannot argue that promise of heaven brings good among peaceful believers, then argue by saying that the whole thing is an old fairy tale and there is no way there is a heavenly reward waiting in afterlife because of the evidence based approach science does.
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RE: Comfort
November 5, 2017 at 8:51 am
It can be used for disproving things like heaven and hell but nothing more . I think that the purpouse of atheists isn't to disprove religion but to eliminate indoctrination. For that pourpouse they use all the tolls they have , it doesn't make science evil because of that in the same way that religion is not evil because of people using it to manipulate people.
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