Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency

[The Grand Nudger]

Everything just happens magically guys... no Gods required, we inherit our actions magically, the form a part of who we are magically, things all move magically, time flows magically, eternal point zero universe magically create time and our brains magically create our souls, physical laws all are applied universally magically..... all that magic it just happens no Sky Magician needed....yup...

.........so...is the point of this that you do think this all happens magically and that a sky magician is needed?

Can you think of any reason that people might not take you seriously, in the above?

[Amarok]

Can you tell me the size of who you are? Not your body, of who you are then. Go ahead and tell me.

Not sure what you mean ?

[Mystic]

Everything just happens magically guys... no Gods required, we inherit our actions magically, the form a part of who we are magically, things all move magically, time flows magically, eternal point zero universe magically create time and our brains magically create our souls, physical laws all are applied universally magically..... all that magic it just happens no Sky Magician needed....yup...

.........so...is the point of this that you do think this all happens magically and that a sky magician is needed?

I believe an All-Powerful, All-Good, All-Beautiful Creator makes this happen.

Regardless of what I think of myself or you think of me, something gives me exact inheritance to my actions and perpetuates my identity. 

And something maintains the universe and it's laws.

It's evident, it's manifest. And the Witness argument is a sound argument and you breathe in it and out every day and rely on it, and believe in it, but then you come out rebelling against it and self-deceiving yourself with respect to it.

[Catholic_Lady]

If I was not a theist I would be a deist. To me, atheism makes the least logical sense out of all 3.

And I don't mean this as an insult to y'all (I'm sure y'all feel the same way about what I am).

I just mean it would take some serious, serious faith and dishonesty to myself to believe there exists NO force, not bound by the laws of nature, that could have created the first physical thing to ever have existed.

[Amarok]

When it comes to person of who we are, it has to have perception, this is so obvious. But you guys won't accept no matter how clear a reminder is of God.

Yup perception is our sense and our brain  and our stored experience in said brain .None have anything to do with a god .

[Cyberman]

Everything just happens magically guys... no Gods required, we inherit our actions magically, the form a part of who we are magically, things all move magically, time flows magically, eternal point zero universe magically create time and our brains magically create our souls, physical laws all are applied universally magically..... all that magic it just happens no Sky Magician needed....yup...

We're not the ones literally proposing magic as the explanation for everything except itself.

[Edwardo Piet]

Nope measurements are just human inventions that have  culturally evolved as a patch for our imperfect brains

Exactly. Hence why time is either illusory or it transcends empirical reality. We make measurements to try and understand the way we experience our reality, but those measurements themselves are just tools to help us understand just that: the way we experience reality . . . they don't relate to reality itself outside of our experience. I'm with Parmenides on this one: Reality itself is just one indestructible entity. But no, it's not God, it's just the totality of all existence, which is eternal and permanent, and calling that "God" is misleading and futile (besides, all of science itself has so far confirmed Parmenides's contention that reality is indestructible. We broke atoms down into smaller parts but we've never found a way to destroy anything completely. Everything appears to just be broken down further and further. I think this is because Parmenides is right: energy cannot be created or destroyed. Physical reality is indeed ultimately indestructible). It's not so much that everything is connected, it's that there's only really one thing, and the reason why we see things as separate entities is because that's the best way for us to make sense of the world we live in. We make those distinctions and measurements, that are indeed human inventions, made by our imperfect brains, just as you say.

[LadyForCamus]

You know how clear the witness argument is. It's been explained and proven thoroughly. We have an exact value, and exact measurement, not determined by us, but a  perfect judge.   Humans all know this though they may have became heedless of their constant witnessing of this like we become heedless of breathing.

Screaming, "it's true!" over and over again is not proof.  I'm still waiting for you to demonstrate this 'exact/perfect value', you speak of.  When we ask you to provide evidence for its existence, you simply say, 'come on you guys; it exists.  You know it does.  See?  Proof.'  Or you quote the Koran. Also, not proof.

Dafuq?!

[Amarok]

I just mean it would take some serious, serious faith and dishonesty to myself to believe there exists NO force, not bound by the laws of nature, that could have created the first physical thing to ever have existed.

Well your free to that baseless opinion

[The Grand Nudger]

Can you tell me the size of who you are? Not your body, of who you are then. Go ahead and tell me.

When it comes to person of who we are, it has to have perception, this is so obvious. But you guys won't accept no matter how clear a reminder is of God.

What about -me- telling -you-...-my- "size" would remind anyone of a god?  Far as I can tell, it's just me and you in that one.

.........so...is the point of this that you do think this all happens magically and that a sky magician is needed?

I believe an All-Powerful, All-Good, All-Beautiful makes this happen.

So, magic and sky magicians.  Thing is, none of the things you mentioned require magic or sky magicians...some of them don't exist....and atheists, as a rule, don't believe in said sky magicians in the first place even if a couple might believe in magic.  

So...you only managed, in that response, to caricature yourself. In your frustration..was that your intent, to mock your own beliefs?

Regardless of what I think of myself or you think of me, something gives me exact inheritance to my actions and perpetuates my identity.

Sure, and that something is between your ears, and between the ears of those around you.

And something maintains the universe and it's laws.

That's just a misunderstanding of natural law. They're not like ratty old buildings that need to be painted from time to time..lol. God-as-tenement super?

It's evident, it's manifest. And the Witness argument is a sound argument and you breathe in it and out every day and rely on it, and believe in it, but then you come out rebelling against it and self-deceiving yourself with respect to it.

Except that god is not evident, or manifest, the argument is neither sound nor valid nor an argument, I don't rely on it for anything...I certainly don't believe in it..nor is there any need to engage in self deception or rebellion to reject it.

I mean, other than being wrong about literally everything you just wrote...maybe you're on to something?