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Please describe your god's loyalty reward scheme.
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RE: Please describe your god's loyalty reward scheme.
(November 17, 2017 at 1:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(November 17, 2017 at 1:44 pm)Hammy Wrote: Yes but I don't think the atheists who take religious belief seriously are being sensible. I think the fact that no one ever (whether atheist or theist) takes mythology or the Flying Spaghetti Monster seriously illustrates that.

All Christians, for instance, are atheists with regards to all other conceptions of God. That just demonstrates how silly belief in God is. For them to think their own particular cartoon character is the real one but all the others are just cartoons. The same applies to other religions of course.

I don't believe in other religions or other gods, but I'd still be interested in talking to a Buddhist or a Hindu, etc, about their religious beliefs in genuine discussion. I think it would be interesting to hear their views. I certainly wouldn't ask them questions just so i could mock the answers they took time to give me, and be sarcastic and condecending towards them. But that's just me I guess.

I guess growing up in a culture (as well as being raised RC) filled with christianity means that we've heard every rationalization and apology about the holes in the belief that it gets pretty old. Also, the condescension and sarcasm goes both ways. So many believers create atheist strawmen to knock around, without even knowing the definition of the word. But I never have to make up a ridiculous example of what a christian believes, as so many willingly fill me in, contradicting so many others. When all these believers with opposing stories (with all claiming a personal relationship with god) claim they have the insight on what their god wants, there is little left to go to beside condenscention and sarcasm.
I would also be interested in talking to followers of other religions, as I've had comparatively little exposure to these. But there is nothing new to be learned about christianity, except the lengths believers will go to to convince themselves they are "right".
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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#22
RE: Please describe your god's loyalty reward scheme.
(November 17, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(November 17, 2017 at 1:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't believe in other religions or other gods, but I'd still be interested in talking to a Buddhist or a Hindu, etc, about their religious beliefs in genuine discussion. I think it would be interesting to hear their views. I certainly wouldn't ask them questions just so i could mock the answers they took time to give me, and be sarcastic and condecending towards them. But that's just me I guess.

I guess growing up in a culture (as well as being raised RC) filled with christianity means that we've heard every rationalization and apology about the holes in the belief that it gets pretty old.  Also, the condescension and sarcasm goes both ways. So many believers create atheist strawmen to knock around, without even knowing the definition of the word.  But I never have to make up a ridiculous example of what a christian believes,  as so many willingly fill me in, contradicting so many others.  When all these believers with opposing stories (with all claiming a personal relationship with god) claim they have the insight on what their god wants, there is little left to go to beside condenscention and sarcasm.
I would also be interested in talking to followers of other religions, as I've had comparatively little exposure to these.  But there is nothing new to be learned about christianity, except the lengths believers will go to to convince themselves they are "right".

Then don't ask us questions. Simple.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#23
RE: Please describe your god's loyalty reward scheme.
(November 17, 2017 at 2:25 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(November 17, 2017 at 2:18 pm)alpha male Wrote: Seems appropriate considering the questions asked in OP. What exactly were you expecting?  Rolleyes  Typical lame atheist tag-team tactic.

That is exactly what he (and the OP) was expecting. 

Like we said, some folks ask people questions but aren't actually interested in their answer/in discussion.

I didn't ask the question. And I'm not interested in the answer.

(November 17, 2017 at 2:27 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(November 17, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: I guess growing up in a culture (as well as being raised RC) filled with christianity means that we've heard every rationalization and apology about the holes in the belief that it gets pretty old.  Also, the condescension and sarcasm goes both ways. So many believers create atheist strawmen to knock around, without even knowing the definition of the word.  But I never have to make up a ridiculous example of what a christian believes,  as so many willingly fill me in, contradicting so many others.  When all these believers with opposing stories (with all claiming a personal relationship with god) claim they have the insight on what their god wants, there is little left to go to beside condenscention and sarcasm.
I would also be interested in talking to followers of other religions, as I've had comparatively little exposure to these.  But there is nothing new to be learned about christianity, except the lengths believers will go to to convince themselves they are "right".

Then don't ask us questions. Simple.

Too entertaining not to.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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#24
RE: Please describe your god's loyalty reward scheme.
(November 17, 2017 at 2:27 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: Too entertaining not to.

Pretty lame that saying Derp you ain't got no evidence over and over is entertaining.
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#25
RE: Please describe your god's loyalty reward scheme.
(November 17, 2017 at 2:33 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(November 17, 2017 at 2:27 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: Too entertaining not to.

Pretty lame that saying Derp you ain't got no evidence over and over is entertaining.

No, it's the simplistic, close-minded responses that are the entertaining part. Like yours right here.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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#26
RE: Please describe your god's loyalty reward scheme.
(November 17, 2017 at 2:27 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(November 17, 2017 at 2:27 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Then don't ask us questions. Simple.

Too entertaining not to.

Right, that is exactly what I said on the post you responded to.

So what I'm saying is, personally I'm not going to ask someone a question just for the purpose of making fun out of them after they take the time to answer me. Such activities are not my form of entertainment, but that's just me I guess.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#27
RE: Please describe your god's loyalty reward scheme.
(November 17, 2017 at 2:27 pm)Nevis Wrote: ...there is nothing new to be learned about christianity, except the lengths believers will go to to convince themselves they are "right".


This guy's even more smug and condescending than me! Look, I know what I know but I am also painfully aware of how much I don't. You really have to wonder about someone who thinks there is nothing new to be learned. I feel like I could study Scripture my whole life and will still only have scratched the surface.
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RE: Please describe your god's loyalty reward scheme.
(November 17, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(November 17, 2017 at 1:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't believe in other religions or other gods, but I'd still be interested in talking to a Buddhist or a Hindu, etc, about their religious beliefs in genuine discussion. I think it would be interesting to hear their views. I certainly wouldn't ask them questions just so i could mock the answers they took time to give me, and be sarcastic and condecending towards them. But that's just me I guess.

Also, the condescension and sarcasm goes both ways. So many believers create atheist strawmen to knock around, without even knowing the definition of the word.

I agree.

What boggles my mind is, if you don't like it when someone does it to you, I can't fathom why you would then proceed to do it to someone else who hasn't done it.

I was under the impression that your morality was based on empathy, and if that's true, I don't know why you would do something to an innocent bystander if you don't like it when it gets done to you.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#29
RE: Please describe your god's loyalty reward scheme.
(November 17, 2017 at 2:37 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: No, it's the simplistic, close-minded responses that are the entertaining part.  Like yours right here.

Bye-bye. Angel
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#30
RE: Please describe your god's loyalty reward scheme.
So I was thinking of the same question OP kinda had but mine was more open ended and I truly am interested in the answer. I'm sure I could go look it up but it would be interesting to hear here. (<- that amuses me, sorry I digress)

What gets each denomination into their heaven? I think CL was pretty detailed in her view on Catholicism but I would like to take it a step farther. Y'all can't talk directly to god can you? Am I mixing that up with another one? That's what priests and confession and all that is for right? So in order to go to heaven do you have to talk to them or just knowing what is inside you at the last moment get you in? I read Left Behind Kids when I was younger and they were worried that last minute conversion couldn't be real but that wasn't based of Catholicism.

What about the other religions? Do you have to go to their church and become one of them first? Do you have to do certain things as building blocks to get there? If you die before you finish them does it count as effort? I don't think we really have many others of different faiths here so I might need to just google this.
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