How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?

[Godscreated]

 Good to hear from you again, I enjoy answering sensible questions even though you may disagree with what I say, I can only respond as I understand God.
I believe what I stated to be absolutely true, I didn't say God would always protect His children from harm, many of the best Christians have endured many great troubles. God's defense of His children would take in many things that men could never comprehend because we are not omniscient. As for what Jesus said, it's been the same through all of time God doesn't deal in the gray areas because for Him there are no gray areas, being omnipresent and omniscient eliminates those gray areas. Hope this answers your question if not please let me know.

GC

Thanks for your response, GC.  I asked you this question, because as a student of mediation, an art which I studied at a Christian university, I've learned that it is essential to be aware of the gray areas of any issue and to be able to re-frame it and construct an impartial third story.  Hence, since the best Christian mediators are able to accomplish this feat, then it would seem that they would be getting their inspiration from their deity and following its example.  Well, thanks for your thoughtful response and enjoy your Thanksgiving holiday.

 I did have a great Thanksgiving and I hope you did, too. Meditation for me is important though I do not do it as often now. Also I said that God doesn't deal in gray areas because there are none for Him. It's different with the limited mind of man and his limited time of living. Trying to understand an eternal, omniscient and omnipotent being will bring gray areas into the mind and life of those who try and understand Him. Our limitations ensure we will have these gray areas.

GC

[Kernel Sohcahtoa]

Thanks for your response, GC.  I asked you this question, because as a student of mediation, an art which I studied at a Christian university, I've learned that it is essential to be aware of the gray areas of any issue and to be able to re-frame it and construct an impartial third story.  Hence, since the best Christian mediators are able to accomplish this feat, then it would seem that they would be getting their inspiration from their deity and following its example.  Well, thanks for your thoughtful response and enjoy your Thanksgiving holiday.

 I did have a great Thanksgiving and I hope you did, too. Meditation for me is important though I do not do it as often now. Also I said that God doesn't deal in gray areas because there are none for Him. It's different with the limited mind of man and his limited time of living. Trying to understand an eternal, omniscient and omnipotent being will bring gray areas into the mind and life of those who try and understand Him. Our limitations ensure we will have these gray areas.

GC

Thanks for your response, GC.  Regarding the part in bold and the statements following it, given the extremely advanced nature of your deity, how would you be able to differentiate between "existing without gray areas" and "existing with gray areas that are beyond human understanding"? Hence, is it possible that the perception of the Christian deity as "having no gray areas" may actually be indicative of the limitation of the human mind to comprehend actual gray areas that exist within such a highly advanced being?

[Godscreated]

 I did have a great Thanksgiving and I hope you did, too. Meditation for me is important though I do not do it as often now. Also I said that God doesn't deal in gray areas because there are none for Him. It's different with the limited mind of man and his limited time of living. Trying to understand an eternal, omniscient and omnipotent being will bring gray areas into the mind and life of those who try and understand Him. Our limitations ensure we will have these gray areas.

GC

Thanks for your response, GC.  Regarding the part in bold and the statements following it, given the extremely advanced nature of your deity, how would you be able to differentiate between "existing without gray areas" and "existing with gray areas that are beyond human understanding"? Hence, is it possible that the perception of the Christian deity as "having no gray areas" may actually be indicative of the limitation of the human mind to comprehend actual gray areas that exist within such a highly advanced being?

  A being that is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent and eternal can't have gray areas, these attributes give God total knowledge of all things through all eternity. This is what man will have an impossible time understanding. So no I do not see a slight possibility that God would have or deal with gray areas. Thanks for asking reasonable questions.

GC

[Kernel Sohcahtoa]

Thanks for your response, GC.  Regarding the part in bold and the statements following it, given the extremely advanced nature of your deity, how would you be able to differentiate between "existing without gray areas" and "existing with gray areas that are beyond human understanding"? Hence, is it possible that the perception of the Christian deity as "having no gray areas" may actually be indicative of the limitation of the human mind to comprehend actual gray areas that exist within such a highly advanced being?

  A being that is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent and eternal can't have gray areas, these attributes give God total knowledge of all things through all eternity. This is what man will have an impossible time understanding. So no I do not see a slight possibility that God would have or deal with gray areas. Thanks for asking reasonable questions.

GC

I appreciate the time you've taken to answer my questions, and I would like to clarify that it is not my intention to be thick or difficult. With that said, from my vantage point, the part in bold seems to be a product of faith and the human mind's attempt to make sense of a concept (the god concept in this case). Thus, given the limitations of the human mind's ability to gain a complete understanding of reality, how can you be sure that the sense-making processes and concepts in bold are in strict accordance with the facts of our reality? How would you be able to tell the difference between a deity who has no gray areas and a deity who possesses gray areas that are incapable of being perceived by the human brain?

P.S. Out of curiosity, is your deity capable of experiencing gray areas if it wishes to (that is, turning into human form and experiencing the various attributes and qualities of humans)?

[Cod]

Thanks for your response, GC.  Regarding the part in bold and the statements following it, given the extremely advanced nature of your deity, how would you be able to differentiate between "existing without gray areas" and "existing with gray areas that are beyond human understanding"? Hence, is it possible that the perception of the Christian deity as "having no gray areas" may actually be indicative of the limitation of the human mind to comprehend actual gray areas that exist within such a highly advanced being?

  A being that is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent and eternal can't have gray areas, these attributes give God total knowledge of all things through all eternity. This is what man will have an impossible time understanding. So no I do not see a slight possibility that God would have or deal with gray areas. Thanks for asking reasonable questions.

GC

Your God can't be omni everything it's impossible. If it's omnipresent then it can't be omnipotent because it's unable to be absent or away, for numerous other examples see the book of Cod.
There are plenty of grey areas with your God, too many to list in a single post, but don't worry GC, I'm here for the foreseeable future

[Abaddon_ire]

 Good to hear from you again, I enjoy answering sensible questions even though you may disagree with what I say, I can only respond as I understand God.
I believe what I stated to be absolutely true, I didn't say God would always protect His children from harm, many of the best Christians have endured many great troubles. God's defense of His children would take in many things that men could never comprehend because we are not omniscient. As for what Jesus said, it's been the same through all of time God doesn't deal in the gray areas because for Him there are no gray areas, being omnipresent and omniscient eliminates those gray areas. Hope this answers your question if not please let me know.

GC

Thanks for your response, GC.  I asked you this question, because as a student of mediation, an art which I studied at a Christian university, I've learned that it is essential to be aware of the gray areas of any issue and to be able to re-frame it and construct an impartial third story.  Hence, since the best Christian mediators are able to accomplish this feat, then it would seem that they would be getting their inspiration from their deity and following its example.  Well, thanks for your thoughtful response and enjoy your Thanksgiving holiday.

Wait, therefore you accept allah and sharia law, right?

Those folks get their inspiration from allah, right?

[Edwardo Piet]

He was poor and a carpenter. He was a Jew in a place that was ruled by the Romans. He didnt own slaves lol.

If he could have afforded it then

I mean, Jesus! ('twas his name), he could have just magicked up some money and/or slaves just for funsies.

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Also I said that God doesn't deal in gray areas because there are none for Him.

Greatest proof that I AM GOD ever

[Godscreated]

  A being that is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent and eternal can't have gray areas, these attributes give God total knowledge of all things through all eternity. This is what man will have an impossible time understanding. So no I do not see a slight possibility that God would have or deal with gray areas. Thanks for asking reasonable questions.

GC

I appreciate the time you've taken to answer my questions, and I would like to clarify that it is not my intention to be thick or difficult. With that said, from my vantage point, the part in bold seems to be a product of faith and the human mind's attempt to make sense of a concept (the god concept in this case). Thus, given the limitations of the human mind's ability to gain a complete understanding of reality, how can you be sure that the sense-making processes and concepts in bold are in strict accordance with the facts of our reality? How would you be able to tell the difference between a deity who has no gray areas and a deity who possesses gray areas that are incapable of being perceived by the human brain?

I do not think you are trying to be difficult. As for thick, no, you ask reasonable questions and I suspect you are wanting truthful answers as I see them. Those things in bold do not have to be in accordance to our reality, they are part of who God is regardless. Even if man did not exist God would still be those things because He has been for all eternity. God being those things you put in bold would eliminate gray areas in His existence, it doesn't matter whether we perceive anything about Him. God tells us through His word that He is those things and since one of them is omniscience He can't have any gray areas. Because God has worked in my life in unmistakable ways I know He tells the truth about all things and so I trust that He wouldn't lie. God has said through His word He is nor a liar, He keeps all His promises. 

P.S. Out of curiosity, is your deity capable of experiencing gray areas if it wishes to (that is, turning into human form and experiencing the various attributes and qualities of humans)?

 God did that very thing 2000 years ago, we call Him Jesus. He did experience life as a human, He did it without fault (sin). Jesus was aware of all things because He was in constant contact with the Father, Jesus said, I and the Father are one, because you have seen Me you have seen the Father. This said I do not believe that God would wish to have gray areas, it would be outside of who He is. Hope this answers your question.

GC

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  A being that is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent and eternal can't have gray areas, these attributes give God total knowledge of all things through all eternity. This is what man will have an impossible time understanding. So no I do not see a slight possibility that God would have or deal with gray areas. Thanks for asking reasonable questions.

GC

Your God can't be omni everything it's impossible. If it's omnipresent then it can't be omnipotent because it's unable to be absent or away, for numerous other examples see the book of Cod.
There are plenty of grey areas with your God, too many to list in a single post, but don't worry GC, I'm here for the foreseeable future

 You have a very large problem and that would be your lack of knowledge of God and those things that make Him who He is. you parrot things others have said because you have no desire to come to an understanding of God. Okay name just one gray area?

GC

[Abaddon_ire]

I appreciate the time you've taken to answer my questions, and I would like to clarify that it is not my intention to be thick or difficult. With that said, from my vantage point, the part in bold seems to be a product of faith and the human mind's attempt to make sense of a concept (the god concept in this case). Thus, given the limitations of the human mind's ability to gain a complete understanding of reality, how can you be sure that the sense-making processes and concepts in bold are in strict accordance with the facts of our reality? How would you be able to tell the difference between a deity who has no gray areas and a deity who possesses gray areas that are incapable of being perceived by the human brain?

I do not think you are trying to be difficult. As for thick, no, you ask reasonable questions and I suspect you are wanting truthful answers as I see them. Those things in bold do not have to be in accordance to our reality, they are part of who God is regardless. Even if man did not exist God would still be those things because He has been for all eternity. God being those things you put in bold would eliminate gray areas in His existence, it doesn't matter whether we perceive anything about Him. God tells us through His word that He is those things and since one of them is omniscience He can't have any gray areas. Because God has worked in my life in unmistakable ways I know He tells the truth about all things and so I trust that He wouldn't lie. God has said through His word He is nor a liar, He keeps all His promises. 

P.S. Out of curiosity, is your deity capable of experiencing gray areas if it wishes to (that is, turning into human form and experiencing the various attributes and qualities of humans)?

 God did that very thing 2000 years ago, we call Him Jesus. He did experience life as a human, He did it without fault (sin). Jesus was aware of all things because He was in constant contact with the Father, Jesus said, I and the Father are one, because you have seen Me you have seen the Father. This said I do not believe that God would wish to have gray areas, it would be outside of who He is. Hope this answers your question.

GC

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Your God can't be omni everything it's impossible. If it's omnipresent then it can't be omnipotent because it's unable to be absent or away, for numerous other examples see the book of Cod.
There are plenty of grey areas with your God, too many to list in a single post, but don't worry GC, I'm here for the foreseeable future

 You have a very large problem and that would be your lack of knowledge of God and those things that make Him who He is. you parrot things others have said because you have no desire to come to an understanding of God. Okay name just one gray area?

GC

How do you know any god of any description exists at all?

[Cod]

Your God can't be omni everything it's impossible. If it's omnipresent then it can't be omnipotent because it's unable to be absent or away, for numerous other examples see the book of Cod.
There are plenty of grey areas with your God, too many to list in a single post, but don't worry GC, I'm here for the foreseeable future

 You have a very large problem and that would be your lack of knowledge of God and those things that make Him who He is. you parrot things others have said because you have no desire to come to an understanding of God. Okay name just one gray area?

GC

Okay then, his pubic region.

My lack of knowledge of God is a testament to Gods poorly developed communication skills, It should have been so simple for him to leave behind concrete evidence and conclusive proof of his Godliness. Instead what do we get? A collection of incoherent, contradictory scribblings that we are supposed to accept as truth/evidence...    

I would love an understanding of God, but he's got to up his game on the communication/evidence front. What I'm getting is exactly what I'd expect, and aligns exactly with a non existent God.