Do Christian Parents Abuse their Children?

[Bow Before Zeus]

There are loads of ways parents abuse their children like relying on prayer alone instead of getting the necessary medical aid. But parents simply trying to pass on their knowledge they feel would be beneficial to the child is not child abuse.

Though if you call it child abuse, then you too are a child abuser for enrolling your daughters in a catholic school knowing full well what that entailed.

Teaching children fairy tales as true stories leads them to reject scientific knowledge and medical knowledge. This leads to anti-vaccers, etc. Children die because iron age religions are taught as fact. This is just one paultry example.

As soon as I realised what the catholic school was doing I enrolled my daughter in another non catholic school.

[Catholic_Lady]

There are loads of ways parents abuse their children like relying on prayer alone instead of getting the necessary medical aid. But parents simply trying to pass on their knowledge they feel would be beneficial to the child is not child abuse.

Though if you call it child abuse, then you too are a child abuser for enrolling your daughters in a catholic school knowing full well what that entailed.

Teaching children fairy tales as true stories leads them to reject scientific knowledge and medical knowledge. This leads to anti-vaccers, etc. Children die because iron age religions are taught as fact. This is just one paultry example.

As soon as I realised what the catholic school was doing I enrolled my daughter in another non catholic school.

There are thousands of Catholic hospitals and Catholic universities around the world. Also, I learned about evolution in Catholic school, and yes, we did have science class.

Both my mother and father in law are devout Catholics and they are doctors, as was my grandfather.

You're ignorant if you think religion causes all religious people to reject medical/scientific knowledge.

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Honestly I'm starting to think this guy's a troll. The BS he spews is too obnoxious.

[LastPoet]

Teaching children fairy tales as true stories leads them to reject scientific knowledge and medical knowledge. This leads to anti-vaccers, etc. Children die because iron age religions are taught as fact. This is just one paultry example.

As soon as I realised what the catholic school was doing I enrolled my daughter in another non catholic school.

There are thousands of Catholic hospitals and Catholic universities around the world. Also, I learned about evolution in Catholic school, and yes, we did have science class.

You're ignorant if you think religion causes all religious people to reject medical/scientific knowledge.

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[Minimalist]

Religion thrives on ignorance so in that sense all theists abuse their children.  We are not living in the 12th century anymore.

[LastPoet]

Fun fact: my nephew asked me If I can teach him to play 8 ball, since his dad has a table.

Surely the 7 year old was asking and chanting catholic stuff from church everytime he played., since my sister is much catholic. I said nothing, I taught him how to better hold the club, to better aim and the physics. He said god would help him win and keep chanting. Well, I gave him no penalties, still won. It made me sad because he really was asking god to win, but with all the handicap, I had to.

Well, I promised a remach.

[Bow Before Zeus]

Wow, you will fit in here! An obnoxious and inflammatory title that is not in any way supported by the post!

1. Your shock at a Catholic school teaching NT stories is, well, shocking.
2. You never connected how The Stations of the Cross (a series of purported historical events) was "in short, child abuse" or could lead to "mentally handicapped". You simply asserted your opinion in an effort to support your conclusion.  
3. With your deep background in theology, you examined the "xtian texts". You found "unethical actions" based on your ethical theory. Okay, even if I grant you that, you have in no way supported your conclusion: "Christian Parents Abuse Their Children". 
4. By your own shitty logic, you, being ultimately responsible for your child, were abusing your child by sending her to that school. Congrats. 

In an effort to salvage your post from breaking the forum rules, do you have any actual arguments to support your post title. In case you need the reminder:

ar·gu·ment
ˈärɡyəmənt/
noun
plural noun: arguments

[*]2.
a reason or set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong.

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The title of the post is supported by the text in the post. Richard Dawkins' assertion is that it is child abuse to teach religion as fact as many xtian and muslim parents do. I thought I made that obvious.


"(a series of purported historical events)" is an example of this mental abuse. The bible is NOT a historical document. Far from it. Many of the events have not and can not be verified by actual historical documents. So something like stations of the cross is a mentally aberrant teaching which could never be verified even a few years after the event let along a few thousand years. Reality is, it never happened and yet it is being taught as fact in catholic schools.

"background in theology" - a nice ad homonym attack. Reality is that a degree in theology is equivalent to a degree in voodoo magic. Neither of them studies a scientifically verifiable fact. They are based on current mythologies. So no, I prefer using the critical thinking I have been taught in a scientific based degree to logically analyse and critique mythological texts. I read the xtian NT 3 times to find some sort of coherent meaning. There was none. And for your information, the "ethical theory" which I used was not mine. I wish I could lay claim to it! No, I used the most rigorous ethical system that I had read about to date and that was to be found in Buddhism (also Jainism). The ethical logic in these systems condemns the triumvirate of Abrahamic religions and shines a light on the unwholesomeness of their teachings. Teaching children unwholesome teachings is certainly abusive.

My "own shitty logic" tells me that you have tried on another ad-hom attack. But here you are correct. By not having spent the effort to adequately investigate the school, I was party to the abuse. However, I did correct that lapse of investigation and judgement as soon as I realised what was happening. You have to understand that I did not expect a school to mentally abuse children - I come from a scientific-minded background.

I don't see how I am breaking rules when all I have done is discussed a topic that Richard Dawkins has raised and give examples of how it has affected my family in the past. Certainly it is not my intention to offend but by the same token, I will not sit back and pretend this does not happen. I will also not give it more palatable names or disguise it for what it is in a 1984 style newspeak. If this is what gets me banned then I will wear that as a badge of honour, knowing that I have not sat back silently while children are mentally abused. It only takes ethical people to sit back and say nothing for this sort of abuse to continue.

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Fun fact: my nephew asked me If I can teach him to play 8 ball, since his dad has a table.

Surely the 7 year old was asking and chanting catholic stuff from church everytime he played., since my sister is much catholic. I said nothing, I taught him how to better hold the club, to better aim and the physics. He said god would help him win and keep chanting. Well, I gave him no penalties, still won. It made me sad because he really was asking god to win, but with all the handicap, I had to.

Well, I promised a remach.

Yes, your approach is the best one. Gently does it, eventually he will realise there are discrepancies between religion and science and hopefully will one day abandon the primitive thinking and fully adopt the scientific facts.
Sounds like it will be an interesting rematch!

[vulcanlogician]

Firstly, I defined ethics as any thought, word or action that causes harm or death to any living being

Can a thought cause harm or death to a living being?

[LastPoet]

Firstly, I defined ethics as any thought, word or action that causes harm or death to any living being

Can a thought cause harm or death to a living being?

Yes.

[vulcanlogician]

Can a thought cause harm or death to a living being?

Yes.

Could you elaborate?

[Succubus]

There are loads of ways parents abuse their children like relying on prayer alone instead of getting the necessary medical aid. But parents simply trying to pass on their knowledge they feel would be beneficial to the child is not child abuse.

Though if you call it child abuse, then you too are a child abuser for enrolling your daughters in a catholic school knowing full well what that entailed.

Teaching children fairy tales as true stories leads them to reject scientific knowledge and medical knowledge. This leads to anti-vaccers, etc. Children die because iron age religions are taught as fact. This is just one paultry example.

As soon as I realised what the catholic school was doing I enrolled my daughter in another non catholic school.

You were unaware that catholic schools taught Catholicism?