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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 22, 2017 at 6:30 am
I do feel that I would have wound up more intelligent if I had been brought up to think critically. But instead I was brought up to think emotionally, even if it didnt make sense sometimes. Hard thing to fix.
I remember acting like things made sense when they didnt. I did this pretty much my entire childhood. I always acted like I understood something when I didnt, and thought maybe it was my fault I didnt get it because I was dumb or something.
The thing I remember most is the concept of heaven. I was told it was a perfect place you go when you die. But you werent supposed to want to die. I didnt understand, so I tried to convince myself that I did not want to die and go to heaven, but when I did die, I did want to go to heaven.
Now I realize the concept of heaven exists because people know they will die and are afraid, and comfort themselves by saying they are going to heaven. Heaven is just a consequence of the fear of death. It all makes sense now.
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 22, 2017 at 6:37 am
Abuse is the wrong word to use in this case, mislead would be a better choice.
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 22, 2017 at 6:39 am
(November 19, 2017 at 11:59 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: There are loads of ways parents abuse their children like relying on prayer alone instead of getting the necessary medical aid. But parents simply trying to pass on their knowledge they feel would be beneficial to the child is not child abuse.
Though if you call it child abuse, then you too are a child abuser for enrolling your daughters in a catholic school knowing full well what that entailed. I have to agree. Indoctrination is unfortunate, but the parents usually are doing what they think is best. Not to mention, some religions basically require you raise your kids to be religious.
There are situations where parents use it as an excuse to be bad parents.
However I feel like this thread isnt talking about literal abuse, its just exagerating. I was gunna defend parents too, but then I read the post, and then thought this was going to be a neat conversation about the psychological effects of indocrination.
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 22, 2017 at 10:13 am
(November 22, 2017 at 6:30 am)Martian Mermaid Wrote: I do feel that I would have wound up more intelligent if I had been brought up to think critically. But instead I was brought up to think emotionally, even if it didnt make sense sometimes. Hard thing to fix.
I remember acting like things made sense when they didnt. I did this pretty much my entire childhood. I always acted like I understood something when I didnt, and thought maybe it was my fault I didnt get it because I was dumb or something.
The thing I remember most is the concept of heaven. I was told it was a perfect place you go when you die. But you werent supposed to want to die. I didnt understand, so I tried to convince myself that I did not want to die and go to heaven, but when I did die, I did want to go to heaven.
Now I realize the concept of heaven exists because people know they will die and are afraid, and comfort themselves by saying they are going to heaven. Heaven is just a consequence of the fear of death. It all makes sense now.
This! I feel that I could have been so much more, if my parents would have raised me making education a priority. Instead I went to more than 17 schools, and making churches was a priority. Let me tell you, changing schools like that does not help your education. I was also taught that heavenly things were more important than worldly things, and that acquiring knowledge was detrimental to your spirit.
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 22, 2017 at 10:43 am
(November 22, 2017 at 10:13 am)J a c k Wrote: This! I feel that I could have been so much more, if my parents would have raised me making education a priority. Instead I went to more than 17 schools, and making churches was a priority. Let me tell you, changing schools like that does not help your education. I was also taught that heavenly things were more important than worldly things, and that acquiring knowledge was detrimental to your spirit.
I don't think we can just blame parents, education of children in general needs looking at, with a view to opening up choices for children and not enforcing a single religion upon them.
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 22, 2017 at 3:45 pm
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(November 22, 2017 at 5:58 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Idiot.
I think you might have me confused for your current president. I bet you voted for him too!!! 
(November 22, 2017 at 10:13 am)J a c k Wrote: I was also taught that heavenly things were more important than worldly things, and that acquiring knowledge was detrimental to your spirit.
Not all xtian parents would teach this but it seems many in the US do. This is a very dangerous concept to teach your children as they will grow up not having the requisite education to function at their best in modern society. And... it's not the child's fault!
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RE: Do Christian Parents Abuse their Children?
November 22, 2017 at 5:06 pm
No, i dont have you confused with Trump. Though he makes sweeping, bigoted generalizations, and so do you.
And no, I did not vote for him.
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RE: Do Christian Parents Abuse their Children?
November 22, 2017 at 5:10 pm
(November 22, 2017 at 5:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: No, i dont have you confused with Trump. Though he makes sweeping, bigoted generalizations, and so do you.
And no, I did not vote for him.
You sound so angry today, take a deep breath and talk to Cod.
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 22, 2017 at 5:13 pm
(November 21, 2017 at 9:40 pm)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: I am not saying that they should be held accountable from a legal sense because they had an unethical thought, however it should be recognised that it is unethical. Only then can unethical thoughts and actions be stopped. Of course the best mind-state is one that can never produce unethical thoughts.
But happy to agree to disagree at this point because we both understand what we mean and there's no need to further convince either one or the other is "right".
For sure. I hardly ever expect to change a person's mind with discussion/debate, but I often learn a thing or two about a different point of view.
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 22, 2017 at 5:25 pm
(November 21, 2017 at 11:24 am)pool the matey Wrote: Whenever I see someone I picture in my head how that person would come at me like he wanted to kill me.. If it's a really tall guy I imagine I'll break his knees first, then fake a leg kick and go for the head or grapple to the ground and go for a choke. If it's a short or medium size guy I'll go in straight with a flying knee to the head because nobody expects that. It's more or less just a pass time and never with any malice behind it but mostly just to make sure it'll be easy to defend myself should it come to it(just in case). That aside, I agree with CL about things relating to marriage, it's pretty common for our people to go work abroad, our church now demands that anyone that wants to marry and work abroad needs to provide a certificate that they have no relations/marriage in the country they are working in to get married in our church.
Interesting to note that your first resort is violence. Just because you saw some bloke.
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