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List of reasons to believe God exists?
RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
(December 7, 2017 at 10:48 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(December 7, 2017 at 12:56 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I watched wally's video (scene from Will Hunting), not the one hour thing that someone else posted.

Neo, I went ahead and read this article: https://strangenotions.com/learning-mora...l-and-ted/

Good stuff. Thanks for posting.

How do you know it's good stuff? You've already stated you don't have the remotest idea who Sean Carroll is, so you are in no position to evaluate a critique of his life's work.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
(December 7, 2017 at 11:20 am)Succubus Wrote:
(December 7, 2017 at 10:48 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Neo, I went ahead and read this article: https://strangenotions.com/learning-mora...l-and-ted/

Good stuff. Thanks for posting.

How do you know it's good stuff? You've already stated you don't have the remotest idea who Sean Carroll is, so you are in no position to evaluate a critique of his life's work.

Simple because he agrees with her

(December 7, 2017 at 11:19 am)Khemikal Wrote: LOL, personhood this and pro-abortion that.  You know what, fuck it.  They're right.  Let's outlaw it and go back to Dr Coathangar in his Back Alley Abortion Bonanza.  We won't actually save any babies, but we will get to punish those filthy whores.

God wills it! Unless she may be an adulteress..then he recommends abortion as a test of her marital fealty.

True i love all righteous Christians trumpeting their supposed moral superiority . But will the majority of them roll up there sleeves and anything piratical on the issue of abortion . Nope it's much easier to be righteous and angry .
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
(December 7, 2017 at 11:19 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(December 7, 2017 at 11:14 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Again a nit-pick. Throughout the life of a human being, he or she is often dependent on others for survival. Infants cannot survive on their own either without adult care. Nor can the extremely sick or infirm.

Yeah, but not by remaining inside their mother's body. That would be even more hell for the mother.

Um a baby is much more work and stress and demand outside the body than inside of it...
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
(December 7, 2017 at 11:19 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(December 7, 2017 at 11:14 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Again a nit-pick. Throughout the life of a human being, he or she is often dependent on others for survival. Infants cannot survive on their own either without adult care. Nor can the extremely sick or infirm.

Yeah, but not by remaining inside their mother's body. That would be even more hell for the mother.
Indeed that's the thing . None of Wooter examples are within the body .

Quote:Um a baby is much more work and stress and demand outside the body than inside of it...
Which does not alter it's status outside the body
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
(December 7, 2017 at 11:25 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(December 7, 2017 at 11:19 am)Grandizer Wrote: Yeah, but not by remaining inside their mother's body. That would be even more hell for the mother.

Um a baby is much more work and stress and demand outside the body than inside of it...

Uhuh, and how about toddlers? lol ...

(December 7, 2017 at 11:26 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:Um a baby is much more work and stress and demand outside the body than inside of it...
Which does not alter it's status outside the body

Are they intentionally being dense or what? Bloody hell ...
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
(December 7, 2017 at 11:29 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(December 7, 2017 at 11:25 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Um a baby is much more work and stress and demand outside the body than inside of it...

Uhuh, and how about toddlers? lol ...

Yeah, thats my point. You claimed that a baby is "more hell for the mother" inside the body than outside of it. This is far from the truth.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
I would imagine having a fully formed toddler living inside you would be more work then one outside. In fact it would probably be fatal.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
(December 7, 2017 at 11:34 am)Tizheruk Wrote: I would imagine having a fully formed toddler living inside you would be more work then one outside. In fact it would probably be fatal.

Who the heck said anything about a toddler inside the body? They come out at 9 months gestation. And those 9 months are much less demanding than the years that are to follow.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
(December 7, 2017 at 11:20 am)Tizheruk Wrote: True i love all righteous Christians trumpeting their supposed moral superiority . But will the majority of them roll up there sleeves and anything piratical on the issue of abortion . Nope it's much easier to be righteous and angry .

The anger is understandable.  Deep sixing our horrid abortion laws and pursuing a different path -actually- led to all of the things they sold as a bill of goods for the benefits keeping abortion illegal.  Not only was their brand stolen, the usurpers did it better...and the same is true of moral realism in the 21st century.

Except for that whole being right in the sight of the lord business, which is the important part....unfortunately this is not relevant to a secular countries laws nor would a secular countries laws make them somehow morally or religiously complicit to whatever it is they think fairies object to.
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
(December 7, 2017 at 11:32 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(December 7, 2017 at 11:29 am)Grandizer Wrote: Uhuh, and how about toddlers? lol ...

Yeah, thats my point. You claimed that a baby is "more hell for the mother" inside the body than outside of it. This is far from the truth.

Going back to the not-absurd scenarios, perhaps not for you. But every woman feels differently about having a [not-yet-born] baby in their own body. You don't mind, and that's great. You live you, and if you ever still want a baby, then I hope it happens for you.
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