List of reasons to believe God exists?

[Godscreated]

How is that lame, Moses wrote Genesis and in his time man still could only observe around 600 stars. Seems you have a problem with the facts.

GC

No, I have a problem with idiotic statements like the ones you just made. For one, Moses didn't write Genesis. In fact, Moses was a made up character. That's a historical fact.

Now you're being plain ol' stupid, you have no facts that Moses wasn't a real person. You have no facts to say he did not write Genesis and the rest of the Torah. You need to state these facts if you have them, you made the assertion prove it.

GC

[Amarok]

That was just god's creators taking a wild guess! The stars are not innumerable and some of them are planets. Good try!

There was no try intended. What wild guess, the people of those times knew more about the night sky than most people today and they knew around 6000 stars could be seem and they didn't know there were other planets. As far as we know they are innumerable, we can't count all the stars and we do not know for fact that the universe has an end. Poor try in trying to discredit what I stated.

GC

Saying the stars seem infinite is not impressive . And ancient people knew about planets .

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No, I have a problem with idiotic statements like the ones you just made. For one, Moses didn't write Genesis. In fact, Moses was a made up character. That's a historical fact.

Now you're being plain ol' stupid, you have no facts that Moses wasn't a real person. You have no facts to say he did not write Genesis and the rest of the Torah. You need to state these facts if you have them, you made the assertion prove it.

GC

Yes we do . I suggest looking it up .There is zero evidence for Moses he is a mythical figure .And mythical figures don't write books . The secular history of how the Torah and the Myths of the old testament came about are readily documented . And it's not in your magic book.

[Godscreated]

There was no try intended. What wild guess, the people of those times knew more about the night sky than most people today and they knew around 6000 stars could be seem and they didn't know there were other planets. As far as we know they are innumerable, we can't count all the stars and we do not know for fact that the universe has an end. Poor try in trying to discredit what I stated.

GC

Saying the stars seem infinite is not impressive . And ancient people knew about planets .

They did not know they were planets, they thought they were wondering stars. Men of Moses time did not understand the earth was just one in many planets. i wasn't trying to impress you or anyone else, I'm stating facts here.

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Now you're being plain ol' stupid, you have no facts that Moses wasn't a real person. You have no facts to say he did not write Genesis and the rest of the Torah. You need to state these facts if you have them, you made the assertion prove it.

GC

Yes we do . I suggest looking it up .There is zero evidence for Moses he is a mythical figure .[/quote]

Now that as supposed fact has been called out I'm suppose to go find it. Well I'm telling you like I get told if you assert that something is fact it is the responsibility of the one claiming the fact to prove it.

GC

[Amarok]

They did not know they were planets, they thought they were wondering stars. Men of Moses time did not understand the earth was just one in many planets. i wasn't trying to impress you or anyone else, I'm stating facts here 

1. False the Egyptians knew about planets as did many other  Mesopotamian cultures  . And even if they believed they were wandering stars they still knew they were there . And even if they did not know they were on a planet it's irrelevant they knew about other planets .

Now that as supposed fact has been called out I'm suppose to go find it. Well I'm telling you like I get told if you assert that something is fact it is the responsibility of the one claiming the fact to prove it.

2. Yup you get told this . Now i'm telling you to go look it up . What difference does it make what others at other times have told you. If you want to learn a fact go look it up . I am under no obligation to do your homework for you . I had to go research it . Why do you get it spoon feed to you ?

[Haipule]

There was no try intended. What wild guess, the people of those times knew more about the night sky than most people today and they knew around 6000 stars could be seem and they didn't know there were other planets. As far as we know they are innumerable, we can't count all the stars and we do not know for fact that the universe has an end. Poor try in trying to discredit what I stated.

GC

Saying the stars seem infinite is not impressive . And ancient people knew about planets .

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Now you're being plain ol' stupid, you have no facts that Moses wasn't a real person. You have no facts to say he did not write Genesis and the rest of the Torah. You need to state these facts if you have them, you made the assertion prove it.

GC

Yes we do . I suggest looking it up .There is zero evidence for Moses he is a mythical figure .And mythical figures don't write books . The secular history of how the Torah and the Myths of the old testament came about are readily documented . And it's not in your magic book.

Zero evidence? Wait...wait...wait till I stop laughing! No...no...stop! Your killing me! Are we going to talk about "JEDP" and "Q"? Shit! Stick with what you know! Just click your heals 3 times and say "there is no god".

[Amarok]

Saying the stars seem infinite is not impressive . And ancient people knew about planets .

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Yes we do . I suggest looking it up .There is zero evidence for Moses he is a mythical figure .And mythical figures don't write books . The secular history of how the Torah and the Myths of the old testament came about are readily documented . And it's not in your magic book.

Zero evidence? Wait...wait...wait till I stop laughing! No...no...stop! Your killing me! Are we going to talk about "JEDP" and "Q"? Shit! Stick with what you know! Just click your heals 3 times and say "there is no god".

Yup zero evidence. JEDP and Q are not shit but i don't even need them . What does the existence or non existence of Moses have to do with god?

[Godscreated]

They did not know they were planets, they thought they were wondering stars. Men of Moses time did not understand the earth was just one in many planets. i wasn't trying to impress you or anyone else, I'm stating facts here 

1. False the Egyptians knew about planets as did many other  Mesopotamian cultures  . And even if they believed they were wandering stars they still knew they were there . And even if they did not know they were on a planet it's irrelevant they knew about other planets .

Stop being ridiculous, the word planet means wondering star, they had no idea what they were other than heavenly bodies moving strangely but with consistency. They were points of light and other than their movement they did not know what they were.

Now that as supposed fact has been called out I'm suppose to go find it. Well I'm telling you like I get told if you assert that something is fact it is the responsibility of the one claiming the fact to prove it.

2. Yup you get told this . Now i'm telling you to go look it up . What difference does it make what others at other times have told you. If you want to learn a fact go look it up . I am under no obligation to do your homework for you . I had to go research it . Why do you get it spoon feed to you ?

 I have said the same thing and it did not go over well with the atheist here, so I'll tell you what I've been told, bring your proof or it's just hearsay. Got it.

GC

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Saying the stars seem infinite is not impressive . And ancient people knew about planets .

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Yes we do . I suggest looking it up .There is zero evidence for Moses he is a mythical figure .And mythical figures don't write books . The secular history of how the Torah and the Myths of the old testament came about are readily documented . And it's not in your magic book.

Zero evidence? Wait...wait...wait till I stop laughing! No...no...stop! Your killing me! Are we going to talk about "JEDP" and "Q"? Shit! Stick with what you know! Just click your heals 3 times and say "there is no god".

You're an idiot and first class at that, you might impress your fellow atheist but with me.... well you're an idiot.

GC

[Edwardo Piet]

There are only fallacious reasons to believe in God.

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[Haipule]

Zero evidence? Wait...wait...wait till I stop laughing! No...no...stop! Your killing me! Are we going to talk about "JEDP" and "Q"? Shit! Stick with what you know! Just click your heals 3 times and say "there is no god".

Yup zero evidence. JEDP and Q are not shit but i don't even need them . What does the existence or non existence of Moses have to do with god?

Exactly! And I don't need JEDP or Q either! If someone doesn't believe that all Scriptures are God-breathed, then why would that person even give a shit which human author someone claims God assigned to write that book whether JEDP, Q or Moses?! And if all Scripture is God-breathed, then why would the ones whom believes that even care which human author wrote it?

There is a reason Ecclesiastes and Hebrews have no biblically assigned authorship: WHO CARES!

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1. False the Egyptians knew about planets as did many other  Mesopotamian cultures  . And even if they believed they were wandering stars they still knew they were there . And even if they did not know they were on a planet it's irrelevant they knew about other planets .

Stop being ridiculous, the word planet means wondering star, they had no idea what they were other than heavenly bodies moving strangely but with consistency. They were points of light and other than their movement they did not know what they were.

Now that as supposed fact has been called out I'm suppose to go find it. Well I'm telling you like I get told if you assert that something is fact it is the responsibility of the one claiming the fact to prove it.

2. Yup you get told this . Now i'm telling you to go look it up . What difference does it make what others at other times have told you. If you want to learn a fact go look it up . I am under no obligation to do your homework for you . I had to go research it . Why do you get it spoon feed to you ?

 I have said the same thing and it did not go over well with the atheist here, so I'll tell you what I've been told, bring your proof or it's just hearsay. Got it.

GC

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Zero evidence? Wait...wait...wait till I stop laughing! No...no...stop! Your killing me! Are we going to talk about "JEDP" and "Q"? Shit! Stick with what you know! Just click your heals 3 times and say "there is no god".

You're an idiot and first class at that, you might impress your fellow atheist but with me.... well you're an idiot.

GC

Friend: If you read a little closer you would find that I am a Christian. I was mocking someone whom mocked the authorship of Genesis without a reasonable justification. But, your right, I am a first class idiot. I love Jesus and the Word of God--passionately! I just don't like to see it belittled. If that make me an idiot? amEn--SO-BE-IT!

[Jehanne]

1. Moses did not write  Genesis

2. Guessing a number of stars is not impressive 

3. Nope the ancients could observe  way more then 600 stars .

There are at least 10^24 stars in the Cosmos and around 100 * 10^9 human beings have lived since the first homo sapiens sapiens evolved.