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Bariatric surgery
#41
RE: Bariatric surgery
(December 29, 2017 at 4:33 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(December 29, 2017 at 11:29 am)mlmooney89 Wrote: My aunt got the surgery and it really is life changing. She was so big she didn't leave her house and she smoked as well. I don't know all the info about it other than you have to keep up with the diet and exercise after or the whole thing could be for nothing. She keeps up with it and it's been over a decade and she looks great. If your doctor recommended it I assume all other options have been exhausted and you should just read up on it as much as possible.

Why not just try to stick to such a diet and exercise without the surgery?
If you can't before the surgery, how would you after?

I know this is hard for men to grasp but women don't lose weight as easily. Once the weight is there it doesn't come off. If you can start over with the surgery it's more likely to keep going.
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#42
RE: Bariatric surgery
You don't need the surgery. I lost 20 pounds in 3 weeks through sheer willpower and a crippling speed addiction.

...on second thought, don't listen to me.
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#43
RE: Bariatric surgery
(December 29, 2017 at 6:10 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote:
(December 29, 2017 at 4:33 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Why not just try to stick to such a diet and exercise without the surgery?
If you can't before the surgery, how would you after?

I know this is hard for men to grasp but women don't lose weight as easily. Once the weight is there it doesn't come off. If you can start over with the surgery it's more likely to keep going.

A lot of it is hormone related too. When your hormones are out of wack it can be almost impossible to lose weight. When mine were and i was trying to get back to my original weight I was eating less than 1000 calories (and all lean meats and vegetables) a day and running 2 miles and doing one hour of a work out video every single day and only losing about 1 pound every 2 weeks. It wasnt until my hormones finally balanced out that the weight came off. Losing weight isn't always as clear cut as it seems.
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#44
RE: Bariatric surgery
(December 29, 2017 at 6:10 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote:
(December 29, 2017 at 4:33 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Why not just try to stick to such a diet and exercise without the surgery?
If you can't before the surgery, how would you after?

I know this is hard for men to grasp but women don't lose weight as easily. Once the weight is there it doesn't come off. If you can start over with the surgery it's more likely to keep going.

Yeah, but... Stick with the diet to see if it's at all possible, or even if it can work on its own, before committing to surgery... is all I'm saying.
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#45
RE: Bariatric surgery
(December 29, 2017 at 6:52 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(December 29, 2017 at 6:10 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote: I know this is hard for men to grasp but women don't lose weight as easily. Once the weight is there it doesn't come off. If you can start over with the surgery it's more likely to keep going.

Yeah, but... Stick with the diet to see if it's at all possible, or even if it can work on its own, before committing to surgery... is all I'm saying.

In most bariatric surgical pre op programs there is a pre op diet that has to be adhered to before they will continue on to the surgery. Don't know any specifics right off hand.
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#46
RE: Bariatric surgery
(December 29, 2017 at 6:10 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote:
(December 29, 2017 at 4:33 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Why not just try to stick to such a diet and exercise without the surgery?
If you can't before the surgery, how would you after?

I know this is hard for men to grasp but women don't lose weight as easily. Once the weight is there it doesn't come off. If you can start over with the surgery it's more likely to keep going.

It tends to be a  metabolism thing, When it comes to difficulty losing/gaining weight, although it does seem like men tend to have faster metabolisms, but i also know a fair few women with fast metabolisms too.
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#47
RE: Bariatric surgery
(December 29, 2017 at 10:26 pm)Jello Wrote:
(December 29, 2017 at 6:10 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote: I know this is hard for men to grasp but women don't lose weight as easily. Once the weight is there it doesn't come off. If you can start over with the surgery it's more likely to keep going.

It tends to be a  metabolism thing, When it comes to difficulty losing/gaining weight, although it does seem like men tend to have faster metabolisms, but i also know a fair few women with fast metabolisms too.

I agree it is also about metabolism... And hormones like CL said, and a lot of stuff but really women's bodies want to put on weight around the waist due to the whole birthing thing. The smaller the frame the harder birth is and nature 'knows' that. On that same note ask any woman where it's hardest to get rid of weight. Mine, and 99% of women's, is the stomach/waist. I worked out multiple times a week and lost weight but no matter what I did I couldn't get my abs to flatten how I wanted them to.

(December 29, 2017 at 6:52 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(December 29, 2017 at 6:10 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote: I know this is hard for men to grasp but women don't lose weight as easily. Once the weight is there it doesn't come off. If you can start over with the surgery it's more likely to keep going.

Yeah, but... Stick with the diet to see if it's at all possible, or even if it can work on its own, before committing to surgery... is all I'm saying.

Usually when the doctor is suggesting the procedure all other options game already been tried unsuccessfully. Plus as MH said when signed up for these things you are required to follow strict rules. Ie no smoking, following a diet, exercising, sometimes no alcohol. Pretty much you have to usually be a perfect candidate to show you are serious about it before they put you under the knife.
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#48
RE: Bariatric surgery
(December 29, 2017 at 11:01 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote:
(December 29, 2017 at 10:26 pm)Jello Wrote: It tends to be a  metabolism thing, When it comes to difficulty losing/gaining weight, although it does seem like men tend to have faster metabolisms, but i also know a fair few women with fast metabolisms too.

It is also about metabolism... And hormones like CL said, and a lot of stuff but really women's bodies want to put on weight around the waist due to the whole birthing thing. The smaller the frame the harder birth is and nature 'knows' that. On that same note ask any woman where it's hardest to get rid of weight. Mine, and 99% of women's, is the stomach/waist. I worked out multiple times a week and lost weight but no matter what I did I couldn't get my abs to flatten how I wanted them to.

Oh true enough, i wasn't trying to contest that Tongue

I fall straight into the "can't gain any weight" category of guy, but it comes with the problem of no muscular gains either. 

Also, for the purposes of not getting murdered by my girlfriend, i'm not going to ask that question  Big Grin
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#49
RE: Bariatric surgery
I talked to my mom about her experience with bariatric surgery, Joods, and she really recommends getting a sleeve rather than a band. A band (the one that made her vomit so much) isn't a permanent solution she says whereas the sleeve is a more invasive procedure but is better as a permanent solution and she and my dad have had fewer complications with it.

She couldn't think of any questions for you to ask at the seminars but I'd ask about common complications like the vomiting so that you know what you're in for after surgery.

That's as much as I know.

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#50
RE: Bariatric surgery
Ask which one most often creates "dumping syndrome" and then cross that one off as an option.

Unless you're into that kind of thing.
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