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Ranking the world's worst religions
#21
RE: Ranking the world's worst religions
(January 3, 2018 at 12:54 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: 1. Islam
2. Everything else is is shitty but not quite as bad as Islam.

Somethings like orthodox Judaism or Scientology are actually shittier than Islam but just don't have much numbers, so they seem less shitty.

Extremist Jainism wouldn't be harmful to the world at all. It's the true religion of peace.
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#22
RE: Ranking the world's worst religions
(January 3, 2018 at 1:15 am)Hammy Wrote:
(January 3, 2018 at 12:54 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: 1. Islam
2. Everything else is is shitty but not quite as bad as Islam.

Somethings like orthodox Judaism or Scientology are actually shittier than Islam but just don't have much numbers, so they seem less shitty.

Extremist Jainism wouldn't be harmful to the world at all. It's the true religion of peace.

Isn't the highest moral act you can do in Jainism starve yourself to death? Because only then can you do no harm? I could be mistaken and too lazy to Wikipedia it. :p

In general the eastern religions seem less harmful then in the western ones, though no less factually correct.
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#23
RE: Ranking the world's worst religions
(January 3, 2018 at 1:23 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Isn't the highest moral act you can do in Jainism starve yourself to death? Because only then can you do no harm?

No, self-harm is considered equally immoral.
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#24
RE: Ranking the world's worst religions
(January 3, 2018 at 1:23 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Isn't the highest moral act you can do in Jainism starve yourself to death? Because only then can you do no harm? I could be mistaken and too lazy to Wikipedia it. :p
In general the eastern religions seem less harmful then in the western ones, though no less factually correct.

If people want to starve themselves that's their prerogative. I think we should number the "worst" religions based on how they treat human beings-- not how they encourage people to treat themselves (as in the case of devout Jains) nor by how wrong they are (they're ALL wrong and numeration just seems pointless).

Religion can be a source of positivity for individuals. Societies need protection from them. I figure you might hear where I'm coming from, Capn, since you're all about freedom of individual choice. Buddhists are particularly fucked up in Myanmar, I'll give you that. But on the world scene there are bigger fish to fry.
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#25
RE: Ranking the world's worst religions
(January 3, 2018 at 2:10 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(January 3, 2018 at 1:23 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Isn't the highest moral act you can do in Jainism starve yourself to death? Because only then can you do no harm? I could be mistaken and too lazy to Wikipedia it. :p
In general the eastern religions seem less harmful then in the western ones, though no less factually correct.

If people want to starve themselves that's their prerogative. I think we should number the "worst" religions based on how they treat human beings-- not how they encourage people to treat themselves (as in the case of devout Jains) nor by how wrong they are (they're ALL wrong and numeration just seems pointless).

Religion can be a source of positivity for individuals. Societies need protection from them. I figure you might hear where I'm coming from, Capn, since you're all about freedom of individual choice. Buddhists are particularly fucked up in Myanmar, I'll give you that. But on the world scene there are bigger fish to fry.

Sure, but I said Orthodox Judaism, not Jainism. I don't know much about it, but I am taking a bold stand by saying I'm against people starving themselves to death. Imagine if someone you loved starved themselves to death over a religion. I'd be forever posses at it. That does happen from time to time. I don't know about Jainsim, but Buddhists do kill themselves thinking they reached enlightenment. Listened to a podcast by a friend of someone who did it at a meditation retreat and they were devastated by that.
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#26
RE: Ranking the world's worst religions
I am going to rank the religions from worst to least worse not based on the actions of their adherents but on the horrors in their texts.

1. Islam
2. Xtianity (all sects)
3. Judaism
4. Scientology
5. Hinduism
6. Buddhism
7. Taoism
8. Confucianism
9. Jainism
10, Pastafarianism
11. Dudeism

Also, I need to declare that I am an officially ordained Dudeist priest - ordination certificate. If any of you want to get married, let me know and I can officiate.  Dodgy
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#27
RE: Ranking the world's worst religions
(January 3, 2018 at 1:23 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(January 3, 2018 at 1:15 am)Hammy Wrote: Extremist Jainism wouldn't be harmful to the world at all. It's the true religion of peace.

Isn't the highest moral act you can do in Jainism starve yourself to death? Because only then can you do no harm? I could be mistaken and too lazy to Wikipedia it. :p

In general the eastern religions seem less harmful then in the western ones, though no less factually correct.

All of these religions except #4, #10, and #11 are Asian in origin.

1. Islam
2. Xtianity (all sects)
3. Judaism
4. Scientology
5. Hinduism
6. Buddhism
7. Taoism
8. Confucianism
9. Jainism
10. Pastafarianism
11. Dudeism
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#28
RE: Ranking the world's worst religions
(January 4, 2018 at 11:35 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(January 3, 2018 at 1:23 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Isn't the highest moral act you can do in Jainism starve yourself to death? Because only then can you do no harm? I could be mistaken and too lazy to Wikipedia it. :p

In general the eastern religions seem less harmful then in the western ones, though no less factually correct.

All of these religions except #4, #10, and #11 are Asian in origin.

1. Islam
2. Xtianity (all sects)
3. Judaism
4. Scientology
5. Hinduism
6. Buddhism
7. Taoism
8. Confucianism
9. Jainism
10. Pastafarianism
11. Dudeism

Good thing I said eastern and not Asian, eh.
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#29
RE: Ranking the world's worst religions
(January 3, 2018 at 1:15 am)Hammy Wrote: Extremist Jainism wouldn't be harmful to the world at all. It's the true religion of peace.

That's not remotely true. Jain extremism, historically, looked exactly like all other religious extremism has looked.  Covered in blood and muttering fever dream bullshit about righteousness - I breifly described the relevant bits in a thread somewhere recently......

Jains, like american christians, are just relatively peaceful at the moment.
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#30
RE: Ranking the world's worst religions
(January 2, 2018 at 7:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 2, 2018 at 6:32 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: Aside from being annoying, how do the Jovies cripple society?

Can you point to ANY religion that has crippled society?

Boru

Greek polytheism did. Imagine how far out to the stars we'd be if they hadn't strangled the first scientific rvolution at birth in c 500BCE. And given your ethnicity I'm surprised your not looking at our shared island to see what damage religion has done, and continues to do, both sides of the border.
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