Life is nothing

[Mister Agenda]

If we are just created by chance and nothing else, then what's the point of living if in the end, we are just gonna die and be forgotten? If we are nothing but a bunch of cells and sperms that had evolved over time, then why must we care and love one another? And no, saying that we need others to survive is not an valid answer. I don't care about surviving. If life's is just about surviving, then that means we should only care about ourselves and nothing else. So that means that hospitals and medicine and things like that should not exist. Nothing in ever matters so we might as well die and not exist since nothing we ever do as humans will accomplish a single thing. So why bother? God does not exist. Heaven does not exist. Spirits don't exist. The only thing that exists is just us in a dark, empty void with a bunch of gases that we call the universe. That's it. So we should need to live a long, happy life since we will just die and soon be forgotten and wither away. Life comes from nothing, death means we become nothing, therefore life itself means absolutely nothing. I hate atheism.

Living is its own point. There's nothing 'just' about what we are, we're not 'just a bunch of cells', we're a bunch of cells with consciousness, the ability to devise our own purpose, the protagonists of our own stories. There's no 'must' about caring for and loving one another, but it's very rewarding to do so and very miserable to forego it entirely. Just because life is about surviving doesn't mean we can't care about anything else...but if it WERE the only consideration, hospitals and medicine and things like that make perfect sense. We can accomplish things despite being temporary, we can even accomplish things that will still matter generations after we're dead. We bother because we care. Everything you have said up to this point is simply wrong.

Heaven and spirits very likely don't exist. It's just us, or at least just us to a long way out in a void with lots of stuff in it like stars and black holes that we call the universe. That's a lot. So yes, we should live a long and happy life to the extent that we are able, especially since we're going to die and eventually be forgotten and decay to be recycled back into the rest of the universe. Life comes from life all the way back to the first living thing on earth, death means our stories have a conclusion.

We're the only part of the universe that cares about us. Life means something because it means something to us. It doesn't matter now that nothing I do will matter in a million years. Nothing would make my life on earth more meaningless than it being followed by an eternity without ever ending. No one would want to see a movie or read a book that never ends. A story has a beginning, a middle, and an end; and our lives are stories.

Hate away, atheism is not responsible for your cynical nihilistic outlook. That's on you.

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Survival is not a answer since we are far past the point when it comes to "surviving". And also, I'll let you know that once again, what's the point of living if life was simply created by chance? That would mean we were not ever meant to exist.

We don't have a point to our existence the way a hammer has a point to its existence, as a tool made for a specific purpose. Because we're not the product of intention, we have the freedom to choose our own purpose.

[Mr.Obvious]

What's the point if we are just a bunch of cells and nothing else?

What's the point of eating a steak if it's just a 'bunch' of cells and chemicals and I'm just going to shit it all out later?

Oh, that's right... the experience.

(Please, for the sake of all that's unholy, find a list of collective nouns other than 'bunch' and learn them. I'm not only addressing you, either.)

You are not talking about The bunch of us, now are you?

[Whateverist]

I hate atheism.

Is that as someone who feels stuck with it or as someone trying to believe in gods who is troubled that some people seem quite content without them?

If it's the former, remember you did get past your disillusion when your belief in Santa was overturned.

If it is the latter, tough titties.  I'm not an accessory to your life, I'm the star of my own.

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(Please, for the sake of all that's unholy, find a list of collective nouns other than 'bunch' and learn them. I'm not only addressing you, either.)

Does "shitload" work for you? How about "shit ton", or perhaps the all inclusive "whole nine yards"?

[polymath257]

What's the point if we are just a bunch of cells and nothing else?

What's the point of music if it is just a bunch of sounds? What is the point of a book if it is just a bunch of paper and ink?

Here's a question: why would there be more of a 'point' if we are just a bunch of 'spirit stuff' and nothing else?

[Cyberman]

Does "shitload" work for you? How about "shit ton", or perhaps the all inclusive "whole nine yards"?

Anything besides 'bunch'. Surprisingly, English has more than ten words.

[notimportant1234]

But we have eternity , the human species is our eternity.

[Whateverist]

Does "shitload" work for you?  How about "shit ton", or perhaps the all inclusive "whole nine yards"?

Anything besides 'bunch'. Surprisingly, English has more than ten words.

Who knew????  Thank gawd we have Englishmen about to keep us in the loop.

[Cyberman]

See what I mean? You could have said 'apprised' or 'informed'.

[downbeatplumb]

If we are just created by chance and nothing else, then what's the point of living if in the end, we are just gonna die and be forgotten? If we are nothing but a bunch of cells and sperms that had evolved over time, then why must we care and love one another? And no, saying that we need others to survive is not an valid answer. I don't care about surviving. If life's is just about surviving, then that means we should only care about ourselves and nothing else. So that means that hospitals and medicine and things like that should not exist. Nothing in ever matters so we might as well die and not exist since nothing we ever do as humans will accomplish a single thing. So why bother? God does not exist. Heaven does not exist. Spirits don't exist. The only thing that exists is just us in a dark, empty void with a bunch of gases that we call the universe. That's it. So we should need to live a long, happy life since we will just die and soon be forgotten and wither away. Life comes from nothing, death means we become nothing, therefore life itself means absolutely nothing. I hate atheism.

However that there is no god seems to be the truth. So you kinda hate reality.

But if it makes you feel any better just believe in stuff that is wrong, just so long as you aren't a dick about it no one really cares.

[Brian37]

If we are just created by chance and nothing else, then what's the point of living if in the end, we are just gonna die and be forgotten? If we are nothing but a bunch of cells and sperms that had evolved over time, then why must we care and love one another? And no, saying that we need others to survive is not an valid answer. I don't care about surviving. If life's is just about surviving, then that means we should only care about ourselves and nothing else. So that means that hospitals and medicine and things like that should not exist. Nothing in ever matters so we might as well die and not exist since nothing we ever do as humans will accomplish a single thing. So why bother? God does not exist. Heaven does not exist. Spirits don't exist. The only thing that exists is just us in a dark, empty void with a bunch of gases that we call the universe. That's it. So we should need to live a long, happy life since we will just die and soon be forgotten and wither away. Life comes from nothing, death means we become nothing, therefore life itself means absolutely nothing. I hate atheism.

^^^^^ This bullshit is pessimistic. Not us.

Just because the ride ends DOES NOT mean we are fatalistic, it just means the ride ends.

You go to a movie knowing it ends, but you still go. You go to a music concert knowing it plays a last song, but you still go. You go to a sporting event knowing one team will win, and one team will loose, but you still go. You read a good book knowing it has a last page, but you still read it. You get a pet dog or cat, they live 7 or 12 years, they die, you mourn but even then,you might get another pet after that and be happy with the new one. 

What is the use? BECAUSE I don't want to die and I still enjoy my life. I still have ups and downs, I still feel love, I still value family and friends. I just lost my late mother last March. She printed out a saying for me on a ribbon of paper I had on the visor for my van for a long time, "Don't cry because it is over, smile because it happened.'

Atheists feel the same things you do, the only difference is we don't assign the good or bad in life to sky heros vs ground trolls.

THERE MOST CERTAINLY is a reason to live for atheists. Curiosity, love, family, friends, education. You don't get scared thinking about what your non existence was like 4 billion years ago, so why do you think your non existence 5 billion years from now will feel any difference?

I would not want to live forever in any case, especially if it meant kissing one beings ass for eternity. If I wanted that I'd move to North Korea because Kim Jong Un is worshiped like a God there. 

Atheist are NOT pessimistic one bit. We accept this is it, so to us, that one shot makes it far more valuable. It does not make us suicidal, it does not mean we value lawlessness or dictators. Accepting the ride ends only means we accept the ride ends. What we do between is what matters to us.

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In the scope of a 13.8 billion year old universe no, humans don't mean anything. But WE do mean something now, while we are alive.