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RE: Why you should distrust all religions.
January 7, 2018 at 1:49 pm
Probably best not to trust anyone by default, religious or otherwise. Let them earn yours if they're worthy, but always be careful.
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RE: Why you should distrust all religions.
January 7, 2018 at 2:13 pm
(January 7, 2018 at 1:45 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don’t see how the title of the thread, relates to the video. Certainly it doesn’t seem to follow from the video that people who have had a religious experience are mentally ill.
Of course it does! If I lose my keys, do I just assume that a fairy took them? How do you distinguish between someone who is a functional schizophrenic from someone who has a "genuine" religious experience?
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RE: Why you should distrust all religions.
January 7, 2018 at 2:16 pm
It's why Drich and GC can't accept that I have A/S/D'd and got fuck all, our inability to have received the divine and accept their shit must be our fault.
And they become mind-readers.
They must be right, so I must be doing it wrong.
It's the binary world of good/bad, heaven/hell, free/slave.
No nuance allowed and certainly no dissension.
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RE: Why you should distrust all religions.
January 7, 2018 at 2:19 pm
(January 7, 2018 at 2:13 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (January 7, 2018 at 1:45 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don’t see how the title of the thread, relates to the video. Certainly it doesn’t seem to follow from the video that people who have had a religious experience are mentally ill.
Of course it does! If I lose my keys, do I just assume that a fairy took them? How do you distinguish between someone who is a functional schizophrenic from someone who has a "genuine" religious experience?
You tell me... do you just assume that is the case?
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RE: Why you should distrust all religions.
January 7, 2018 at 2:23 pm
(January 7, 2018 at 2:19 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (January 7, 2018 at 2:13 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Of course it does! If I lose my keys, do I just assume that a fairy took them? How do you distinguish between someone who is a functional schizophrenic from someone who has a "genuine" religious experience?
You tell me... do you just assume that is the case?
The problem is how do you tell?
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RE: Why you should distrust all religions.
January 7, 2018 at 2:33 pm
(January 7, 2018 at 1:45 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don’t see how the title of the thread, relates to the video. Certainly it doesn’t seem to follow from the video that people who have had a religious experience are mentally ill.
Some folks interpret their hallucinations as communications from a deity. Ex post facto examination of the "information" furthers that impression if the person is religiously inclined.
And no, not people who have had a religious experience are mentally ill.
But that's the way to bet.
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RE: Why you should distrust all religions.
January 7, 2018 at 2:36 pm
(January 7, 2018 at 2:33 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (January 7, 2018 at 1:45 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don’t see how the title of the thread, relates to the video. Certainly it doesn’t seem to follow from the video that people who have had a religious experience are mentally ill.
Some folks interpret their hallucinations as communications from a deity. Ex post facto examination of the "information" furthers that impression if the person is religiously inclined.
And no, not people who have had a religious experience are mentally ill.
But that's the way to bet.
Why is that? Are you perhaps only thinking of extreme examples and surplanting them to everything else?
Is there any connection to any of this to the video, other that a loose connection between assumptions, and the video topic?
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RE: Why you should distrust all religions.
January 7, 2018 at 2:45 pm
I'm just throwing it out there, but Jehanne, instead of asking people to watch long ass youtube videos that interest you, have you ever considered just paraphrasing what was said in the videos, and posting that instead? Then you could talk about the content of the video with the larger group instead of the 0 to 3 people who maybe watched some of it.
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RE: Why you should distrust all religions.
January 7, 2018 at 2:56 pm
(January 6, 2018 at 8:06 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I enjoyed after the 28min mark more.
So did I. Although I started skipping through and didn’t really watch the after the 60 minute mark when it dealt more with the chemistry.
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RE: Why you should distrust all religions.
January 7, 2018 at 3:02 pm
(January 7, 2018 at 2:13 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (January 7, 2018 at 1:45 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don’t see how the title of the thread, relates to the video. Certainly it doesn’t seem to follow from the video that people who have had a religious experience are mentally ill.
Of course it does! If I lose my keys, do I just assume that a fairy took them? How do you distinguish between someone who is a functional schizophrenic from someone who has a "genuine" religious experience?
Yeah, that's exactly what us religious folks think when we can't find something....
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
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