Western terrorism.

[WinterHold]

The western secular governments, commit hellish crimes against civilians.
I want to unfold a few demonic and quite evil actions in the history of the west.

A reminder for every white supremacist, or rightist, so drunk on the terrorism of his ancestors.

I present to you the "Bombing of Hamburg" in World War 2. The Allied forces -which is the side claiming to be "humanitarian and fair"; has Britain & America as a main component- began air raids against the city, bombing civilians and military targets alike; civilians were officially targeted with incendiary bombs. The UK and the U.S are the shining stars of this massacre, and filthy terrorist act against German civilians:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of...rld_War_II


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I have a question: when racists and ignorant people, begin to "criticize" Muslims for ISIS and Al-Qaeda; they didn't read the above?
Seriously, comparing a bombed truck loaded with western manufactured explosives, to burning 42,600 civilians alive?

How is terrorism expected to end, when demons in the history books of the west are not confronted?
Sadly; many Muslims take these demons as a row model. The victory of WW2 is not a victory; it's a shame.

42,600 burned civilians in a single battle?
Just a small history lesson. Read about world war 1 and 2, to know that you are living a mere lie.

This advice is for right wing tools; especially. And Republicans. And Democrats. And Arabs.
This is for every tool that supported terrorist. Either Bin Laden or Jack "Ace" The Ripper.

Comparing modern morality with that of almost a century ago makes no sense. But I do agree that the western world had done worse crimes and terrorized more to the middle East than vice versa.

WWII is a bad example though. The west wasn't bombing hamburg  (a western city) so they could bring slavery back into the world, like ISIS.

Also to say that the western world isn't critical of its history is not accurate.  They are hyper critical of their own history, unlike the Islamic world, which seems to me to be just full of shitty excuses.

The good people in the west are behind the change; not the regimes and the elites controlling all the money. These warmongering fatcats are the same as before, their interests push regimes to wage the wars in the first place.

I never said the common westerner is evil: but the common western fat cat is. Taking a look at Trump or the Federal Reserve give us quite a good idea about who moves wars and why.

A small portion of the people though, are the blockade against such evil. Still; the majority will not move to do good, or move against evil policies dictated by the few; unless Millions die.

Some westerners criticize their history; only some. Majorities -like in America- vote the opposite; sometimes even twice in a row -Bush the son-.
I insist though that good people exist in degrees. The sense of criticizing one's own history, is very rare to find around the Middle East. Very very rare; and it doesn't even compare to the west. That's a fact.

But it exists.

[The Grand Nudger]

Generals always think the solution is war..it doesn't matter where (or what culture) they're from.  So, too, weapons manufacturers see war as opportunity.  The "western" fat cat is no more or less evil than their middle eastern counterparts.  

You mischaracterize "westerners" being self critical of our history.  We are institutionally hyper-critical.  It's not just a few of us, it's the fabric of our historical narrative. You're the one bullshitting people incessantly about the glory and justice of the ummah. Every american knows that what happened to the natives was fucked up, because that's what we teach our children, as a counterpoint.

So clean your own house..ours is in order, at least on that count.

[WinterHold]

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Repaying the deaths of 68 civilians, with the burning of 80,000 Japanese.
Not counting the rest of the attacks.

Fuck the millions of people who died elsewhere due to Japanese imperialism, right? You lame fuck.

Who appointed the U.S to be the "guardian angels"; or "vigilantes" ?
I don't need free favors that turn into blood sucking with time. That's the first thing.

The second thing, is "eye for an eye".
If somebody took an eye; take "their eye". Don't take the eye of their sons.

They commit the crime; not their sons and daughters. Burn the soldiers; why burn the civilians who did nothing?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Fuck the millions of people who died elsewhere due to Japanese imperialism, right? You lame fuck.

Who appointed the U.S to be the "guardian angels"; or "vigilantes" ?
I don't need free favors that turn into blood sucking with time. That's the first thing.

The second thing, is "eye for an eye".
If somebody took an eye; take "their eye". Don't take the eye of their sons.

They commit the crime; not their sons and daughters. Burn the soldiers; why burn the civilians who did nothing?

Dumbass, the killing would have been worse if we hadn't thrown in with the Chinese. We were trying to stop the murders, stupid.

And there were very few non-combatants in Japan at the time, by the declaration of the Japanese War Minister. He also put the war industries in the civilian homes, making them legitimate war targets. If you want to blame someone for the deaths, blame General Anami.

[The Grand Nudger]

Our vast ability did so.  The rest of the developed world had recently been reduced to ash..but the world sill needed a big brother. It may not anymoe..and in our capacity a the worlds big brother we made plenty of mistakes..like all big brothers do. Nevertheless, the american century can;t be pointed to as anything other than a reneaissance for humanity, for all of it's troubles. We are not and certainly were not perfect..but we were a hell of an improvement upon past empires. Meanwhile, the remains of the ummah keep watering sand with the blood of their own people...and for what?

[LastPoet]

He wants retribution from his war won territory. Tell you what Atl-ass, instead of making yours a better place, you are the coward that blames it on everybody else. Truly you were born without balls and brains to do it.

[The Grand Nudger]

Whereas some subset of "the west" accepts upon itself responsibility for what the natives can't or won't do for themselves..seeks to accomplish as much, and then drags themselves over the coals for failure to achieve the goal. Adding insult to actual injury, fuckers like atlas call us "terrorists" for our trouble, awaiting the return of the kings who put them in their unenviable positions in the first place.

A society of volunteers, who do what others would not or could not, hated by those whom they stand in defense of on the basis of nonsense sold to them by their own native oppressors.

But hey, that's okay, we still want the best for you...we knew going into it that we'd be painted as the villain, ya bastards...lol.

[CapnAwesome]

Comparing modern morality with that of almost a century ago makes no sense. But I do agree that the western world had done worse crimes and terrorized more to the middle East than vice versa.

WWII is a bad example though. The west wasn't bombing hamburg  (a western city) so they could bring slavery back into the world, like ISIS.

Also to say that the western world isn't critical of its history is not accurate.  They are hyper critical of their own history, unlike the Islamic world, which seems to me to be just full of shitty excuses.

The good people in the west are behind the change; not the regimes and the elites controlling all the money. These warmongering fatcats are the same as before, their interests push regimes to wage the wars in the first place.

I never said the common westerner is evil: but the common western fat cat is. Taking a look at Trump or the Federal Reserve give us quite a good idea about who moves wars and why.

A small portion of the people though, are the blockade against such evil. Still; the majority will not move to do good, or move against evil policies dictated by the few; unless Millions die.

Some westerners criticize their history; only some. Majorities -like in America- vote the opposite; sometimes even twice in a row -Bush the son-.
I insist though that good people exist in degrees. The sense of criticizing one's own history, is very rare to find around the Middle East. Very very rare; and it doesn't even compare to the west. That's a fact.

But it exists.

The middle East needs to start criticizing its own history. This is a religious problem, because so much of its history is tied up in religion.

[The Grand Nudger]

There's a book I'd recommend to anyone interested in this subject..."Destiny Disrupted: A History of the World Through Islamic Eyes"

Ansary has written an informative and thoroughly engaging look at the past, present, and future of Islam. With his seamless and charming prose, he challenges conventional wisdom and appeals for a fuller understanding of how Islam and the world at large have shaped each other. And that makes this book, in this uneasy, contentious post-9/11 world, a must read. --Khaled Hosseini, author of The Kite Runner and A Thousand Splendid Suns

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005EYEPB2/ref...TF8&btkr=1

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The middle East needs to start criticizing its own history. This is a religious problem, because so much of its history is tied up in religion.

Aw, c'mon! Just because they invented organized warfare doesn't mean they're warlike. You have to include the thousands of minutes of peace they've had over the past 6000 years.