Western terrorism.

[WinterHold]

I have a question: when racists and ignorant people, begin to "criticize" Muslims for ISIS and Al-Qaeda; they didn't read the above?
Seriously, comparing a bombed truck loaded with western manufactured explosives, to burning 42,600 civilians alive?

Do you honestly think people sit here and say "ISIS is a disgusting stain on humanity [which it is]" whilst simultaneously believing that the west (or anyone) is whiter than white?

I don't see how Dresden, or even Hiroshima and Nagasaki, somehow precludes the fact that ISIS and all the other stains on humanity are bad?

I mean shit we can go back to YAWEH and the Omnicide of the flood and not see any other event enacted by humans as even remotely comparable. Don't mean shit when it comes to calling a spade a spade, G. If we're talking cognitive dissonance, yo, maybe start with your own house first yeah? And I know you don't believe ISIS represents islam or whatever, but hey, it does to someone, right? But let's save the Scotsmen for another time.

ISIS is doing what Mexican drug lords are doing; both are stains of filth, but as ISIS blows and kills civilians, the west is burning civilians on war; and WW2 is my example.
When you take the historical context; it's pretty normal to see stains of filth like ISIS, get produced from the stains of filth before them that used to "burn" civilians alive, to punish foes.

ISIS, Mexican drug gangs, Iran, Assad, the U.S, Nato, all use the same exact tactic of bombing your family if you stand against them.
All are stains of filth.

The first thing in ISIS's propaganda, is the following of the western example in war. They literally say it: "we bomb western civilians because the west kills Muslim civilians".

[CapnAwesome]

The western secular governments, commit hellish crimes against civilians.
I want to unfold a few demonic and quite evil actions in the history of the west.

A reminder for every white supremacist, or rightist, so drunk on the terrorism of his ancestors.

I present to you the "Bombing of Hamburg" in World War 2. The Allied forces -which is the side claiming to be "humanitarian and fair"; has Britain & America as a main component- began air raids against the city, bombing civilians and military targets alike; civilians were officially targeted with incendiary bombs. The UK and the U.S are the shining stars of this massacre, and filthy terrorist act against German civilians:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of...rld_War_II

The Allied bombing of Hamburg during World War II included numerous attacks on civilians. As a large port and industrial centre, Hamburg's shipyards, U-boat pens, and the Hamburg-Harburg area oil refineries were attacked throughout the war.[1]


The attack during the last week of July 1943, Operation Gomorrah, created one of the largest firestorms raised by the Royal Air Force and United States Army Air Forces in World War II,[2] killing 42,600 civilians and wounding 37,000 in Hamburg and virtually destroying most of the city.[3]

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I have a question: when racists and ignorant people, begin to "criticize" Muslims for ISIS and Al-Qaeda; they didn't read the above?
Seriously, comparing a bombed truck loaded with western manufactured explosives, to burning 42,600 civilians alive?

How is terrorism expected to end, when demons in the history books of the west are not confronted?
Sadly; many Muslims take these demons as a row model. The victory of WW2 is not a victory; it's a shame.

42,600 burned civilians in a single battle?
Just a small history lesson. Read about world war 1 and 2, to know that you are living a mere lie.

This advice is for right wing tools; especially. And Republicans. And Democrats. And Arabs.
This is for every tool that supported terrorist. Either Bin Laden or Jack "Ace" The Ripper.

Comparing modern morality with that of almost a century ago makes no sense. But I do agree that the western world had done worse crimes and terrorized more to the middle East than vice versa.

WWII is a bad example though. The west wasn't bombing hamburg (a western city) so they could bring slavery back into the world, like ISIS.

Also to say that the western world isn't critical of its history is not accurate. They are hyper critical of their own history, unlike the Islamic world, which seems to me to be just full of shitty excuses.

[Fake Messiah]

[Gawdzilla Sama]

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor#cite_note-107][/url]
Repaying the deaths of 68 civilians, with the burning of 80,000 Japanese.
Not counting the rest of the attacks.

Fuck the millions of people who died elsewhere due to Japanese imperialism, right? You lame fuck.

[Amarok]

Too be fair there are Hindu militant  fundamentalists who hate Christians and Jews . And Christians who are Anti Semites and the hardcore fundamentalists are only nice to the Jews because they want to cause the apocalypse .And too also be fair the Muslims didn't start the conflict with the Hindu's .

[The Industrial Atheist]

Well we've more recently been arming Jihadist rebels in Syria. We've supported the blockade in Yemen where people are dying of fucking cholera. A while ago we unilaterally invaded Iraq when they didn't attack us. Tortured in Gitmo and Abu Ghraibh.

My county's government makes many decisions I don't like. Concerning how we interact with other nations, it's rarely out of altruism. Of course, I think all nations rarely act out of altruism.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

My county's government makes many decisions I don't like. Concerning how we interact with other nations, it's rarely out of altruism. Of course, I think all nations rarely act out of altruism.

"Countries don't have friends, they have interests."

[The Industrial Atheist]

Do you honestly think people sit here and say "ISIS is a disgusting stain on humanity [which it is]" whilst simultaneously believing that the west (or anyone) is whiter than white?

I don't see how Dresden, or even Hiroshima and Nagasaki, somehow precludes the fact that ISIS and all the other stains on humanity are bad?

I mean shit we can go back to YAWEH and the Omnicide of the flood and not see any other event enacted by humans as even remotely comparable. Don't mean shit when it comes to calling a spade a spade, G. If we're talking cognitive dissonance, yo, maybe start with your own house first yeah? And I know you don't believe ISIS represents islam or whatever, but hey, it does to someone, right? But let's save the Scotsmen for another time.

ISIS is doing what Mexican drug lords are doing; both are stains of filth, but as ISIS blows and kills civilians, the west is burning civilians on war; and WW2 is my example.
When you take the historical context; it's pretty normal to see stains of filth like ISIS, get produced from the stains of filth before them that used to "burn" civilians alive, to punish foes.

ISIS, Mexican drug gangs, Iran, Assad, the U.S, Nato, all use the same exact tactic of bombing your family if you stand against them.
All are stains of filth.

The first thing in ISIS's propaganda, is the following of the western example in war. They literally say it: "we bomb western civilians because the west kills Muslim civilians".

Yes, the killing of Arab civilians does act as a recruitment tool for Isis. Drone strikes are particularly problematic as they take out way more innocent civilians than they do the target. Some times things aren't even vetted properly in choosing the target. Particularly bad is that many of the civilians killed in drone strikes are children.

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My county's government makes many decisions I don't like. Concerning how we interact with other nations, it's rarely out of altruism. Of course, I think all nations rarely act out of altruism.

"Countries don't have friends, they have interests."

True. I'm not sure what we get out of helping Israel though. Maybe we think they maintain a certain balance of power? Or just that it gets the votes of Christian fundamentalists?

[LastPoet]

@OP: do you understand what the word "war" means? Because I think you are just mistaken on that account as you did in the word "orgasm" for women.

[Abaddon_ire]

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Evidence, please.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Ma%27arra

The Siege of Maarat, or Ma'arra, occurred in late 1098 in the city of Ma'arrat al-Numan, in what is modern-day Syria, during the First Crusade. It is infamous for the claims of widespread cannibalism displayed by the Crusaders.

Yeah, I knew you were going there. That would be anecdote, not evidence and besides, cannibalism under siege conditions is not surprising.