The Death Penalty!

[downbeatplumb]

It would be more humane if the death penalty was carried out as soon as the sentence was passed.(cheaper too)

Yeah, like they do in china, were 150 crimes carried the death penalty, verdict and sentencing is passed at the same time, execution is carried out within 2 hours of the sentenceing by an assault rifle shot to the back of the head, and the family of the executed is billed for the cost of the execution, with a line item on the invoice called "bullet fee", which I understand is 20 cents.

Also in china, often if you are charged with a capital crime you are good as executed. The accused show up at their trial stylishly, as oppose to formally, dressed so as to look presentable when their bodies are handed over to their relatives
before end of the day.

Looking forward to this system, are we?

Well the billing part seems a bit extreme. On the plus side its not too expensive.....

[Shinylight]

Maybe (and this is only a suggestion, one that I may not have thought through), we could give people who are sentenced with life imprisonment the opportunity to take the death penalty instead.

[HeyItsZeus]

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" -Gandhi

[Ashendant]

I'm anti-death penalty and the whole europe has pretty much abolished death penalty, it has no place in society unless you consider prison a punishment rather than a opportunity to rehabilitate criminals(i also believe prisoners should be forced to work on farms, instead of just pumping muscles, they should work for thir food)

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

Except the death penalty appeal process is more costly by a factor of 3 then feeding and housing an inmate incarcerated for life in a maximum security facility. We are rightly highly concerned with taking a unjustly condemned life by mistake. The process in place to prevent that, which demonstrably does not work anywhere close to 100% of the time, already cost far more than simply keeping that life living for its natural life expectancy. I find it unacceptable tolerate any increased attrition rate amongst those unjustly condemned to save cost. So I think the logical solution is to incarcerate for life all those who would have been executed. It keeps the criminals off the street for 1/3 the cost, and prevents execution of unjustly condemned.

My fundamental principle is it is acceptable to let 100 deserving criminals escape death penalty in order to prevent one unjustly condemned men from being executed.

I agree with your overall fundemental principle.
However, the costs and possibility of sentencing an innocent person to death is not a problem with the idea of the death penalty itself.
That is to say I find that a problem with the appeals process and the method to which the death penalty itself is dispensed rather than a problem with sentencing a guilty person of heinous crimes to death.

[Skipper]

Also in china, often if you are charged with a capital crime you are good as executed. The accused show up at their trial stylishly, as oppose to formally, dressed so as to look presentable when their bodies are handed over to their relatives
before end of the day.

Looking forward to this system, are we?

Yes actually I am looking forward to a system that has a little less red tape & bureaucracy. Quick, cheap and easy. Perhaps not all the sysytems in China work well, but this one does.

I cant tell if this is a serious post or not. I hope it's not. Termination of a life should not be "quick, cheap and easy"

[ib.me.ub]

I cant tell if this is a serious post or not. I hope it's not. Termination of a life should not be "quick, cheap and easy"

It is serious, just a little mellow. And please save me the whole love, peace and happiness spill, keep it for the ' fanatical human rights' activists.

punishment rather than a opportunity to rehabilitate criminals

You should really do some research on jails and thier function, you would soon find that they rarely rehabilitate and generally compound the problem making the individual more of a threat to society when they are released. In brief, jails don't work, and they never have.

[Cerrone]

punishment rather than a opportunity to rehabilitate criminals

You should really do some research on jails and thier function, you would soon find that they rarely rehabilitate and generally compound the problem making the individual more of a threat to society when they are released. In brief, jails don't work, and they never have.

They were originally designed as temporary places to hold people on trial (Egypt gets the prize for this), it was never even thought of by the ancient Egyptians to hold people there indefinately, they'd end up going insane and plus who would pay to feed them? It's just prolonging the agony in my opinion.

Either get some compassion and rehabilitate or cut their throat and be done with it if you MUST have some petty revenge.

Anyway why am I even replying here... my original response was ignored.. *pouts*

[Skipper]

I cant tell if this is a serious post or not. I hope it's not. Termination of a life should not be "quick, cheap and easy"

It is serious, just a little mellow. And please save me the whole love, peace and happiness spill, keep it for the ' fanatical human rights' activists.

I don't get why you changed my name to shipper but, whatever.

I'd say wanting to take every step possible to make sure innocent peoples lives weren't terminated just so you can have a "quick, cheap and easy" revenge mechanism is far from giving the love, peace and happiness spill. I just don't want to live in a society where we kill people, possibly innocents, as a punishment. I think Britain is better off without the death penalty, as countries where it is in place either have high enough rates of murder and violence to prove it's not a deterrent, such as the U.S. or it's used as a method to control populations and hold on to power, such as China.

[Anomalocaris]

Also in china, often if you are charged with a capital crime you are good as executed. The accused show up at their trial stylishly, as oppose to formally, dressed so as to look presentable when their bodies are handed over to their relatives
before end of the day.

Looking forward to this system, are we?

Yes actually I am looking forward to a system that has a little less red tape & bureaucracy. Quick, cheap and easy. Perhaps not all the sysytems in China work well, but this one does.

Let's hope if you are ever unjustly convicted of a capital crime, our justice system will rush you to execution grounds with Chinese efficiency.