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Evolution
RE: Evolution
(April 25, 2018 at 10:24 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(April 24, 2018 at 10:11 am)Little Rik Wrote: Einstein said that everything is vibration.

Vibrations move, they are energetic, vigorous, vibrant, sparkling and full of life so they are not dead.
The other option is that they are dead but have you ever seen something dead that does the above actions?

Quote:If vibrations are not in fact alive, then yes, I've seen many vibrating dead things as all things are then essentially dead.  Besides begging the question, this again doesn't differentiate between the Yoga view that the vibrations are alive and the Christian view that God is alive and He is making the vibrations do what they do.  In order for your view of evolution to hold, you need to be able to distinguish the former from the latter.  Stringing together a bunch of adjectives that might describe vibrations doesn't do it.  As can be seen in the vibrations that are water waves, which are caused by an application of an exterior force, wind, it's possible that the vibrations are an effect of the interaction of otherwise constant forces, as in how a window shudders in the wind.  In that case, vibrations would vibrate because of the interaction between potential vibrators, not because of anything internal to the vibrations themselves.  So, no, this only shows that you, once again, are the fool.


(April 24, 2018 at 10:11 am)Little Rik Wrote: 1) Within this universe wherever there is a body there is a mind-consciousness.
It doesn't really matter whether this body is a human body or a rock (matter).
Consciousness and body always go hand in hand.

Dog... ma.....


(April 24, 2018 at 10:11 am)Little Rik Wrote: Outside this universe as has already been demonstrated by thousand of NDEs consciousness does not need a body but within this universe it does.

Since you declined to answer the clairvoyance objection, that makes your claim here false.


(April 24, 2018 at 10:11 am)Little Rik Wrote: 2) Radioactive matter can not in any way be compared to higher type of conscious life.
It is natural that a very low type of consciousness such as the one in the matter or radioactive matter in this case will act in a total different way and have different way of react.

If it can't be compared, then why are you comparing it to that?  You're filled with contradictions.  You're claiming now that radioactivity doesn't behave like the life of conscious things, therefore it is like the life of conscious things!  You make no sense.


(April 24, 2018 at 10:11 am)Little Rik Wrote: There is a parallelism between vibrations and state of awareness so the movement and the sparkling life within a human body can not be the same as the one found in matter.   In matter the vibrations reflect the state in which this matter lie which is a latent-inactive-dormant stage.  Lightbulb

You claimed that more evidence of life was available the higher up the evolutionary scale you go.  Besides not answering the question put to you, this is just more irrelevant twaddle.


(April 24, 2018 at 10:11 am)Little Rik Wrote: See above above but most of all wake up and grow up.  Smile



(April 24, 2018 at 10:11 am)Little Rik Wrote: Yes, I did by showing that there is life in matter such as uranium.  Smile

Like I said, you didn't demonstrate jack shit.  Not only do you claim that the behavior which indicates life in uranium is different from the behavior that indicates life in things we know possess it, thus leaving you without a valid point, your claim that uranium was alive was based on unsupported dogma about some equivalence between the presence of energy and the presence of consciousness.  Supporting one bit of dogma with another bit of dogma gets you nowhere.  You're just arguing in a circle.


(April 24, 2018 at 10:11 am)Little Rik Wrote: You want evidence?
Go to Hiroshima and ask the survival of the bomb whether there was life or not in the explosion.

More irrelevant twaddle.  What in fuck are you trying to say here?  The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki did not demonstrate that uranium was "alive."


FOUR TIME FOOL.

One of the worse dogma that atheists believe is that there is separation everywhere.
So according to atheists consciousness in plants will never turn into animals, animals into humans and humans into God.  
NDEs already tell us that we are all interconnected and everything vibrate.
Vibrations vary in strength according the level of awareness that we all have that however doesn't mean that vibrations are dead.
How can something that keep us alive can be dead?

Even your demented idea that vibrations are not alive because they can be caused by an application of an exterior force it is but a foolish idea.
An application of an exterior force is energy that turn into vibrations and energy is vibrations.
What is the difference between vibrations and energy?
Nothing really.
It is the same thing so an application of exterior force into a visible vibration does not in any way show that vibrations are not alive.
Science say that is not possible to get rid of energy.
Energy only change in effect but it never lose her power and because energy is alive also vibrations are alive.

Bombs are made of energy and because energy is made of vibrations my referring to Hiroshima was a clear example of vibrations.


Fail again.


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(April 25, 2018 at 11:16 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Lol still no evidence vibrations are living things and no evidence that the vibration need an outside source accept by false analogy  . And NDE don't prove shit.


Wrong once again Tiz.     Banging Head On Desk

NDEs prove everything BECAUSE science tell us that there is no hallucinations involved and death is real.
Under such a conditions it can not be deny that what is experienced by these people is not real.
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RE: Evolution
Wash, rinse and repeat.

Still no clue what adults mean when they talk about evolution LR. And clearly no rational skepticism involved in your dogmatic adherence to your guru's absurd ideas.
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RE: Evolution
(April 25, 2018 at 11:54 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:Animals have evolved from plants and human animals have evolved from non-human animals. So yes that can, does and must happen.
Actually animals and plants diverged from something that was neither

And Rik seems to think evolution is just utter random chaos without mechanism or a pattern of alteration.

And Rik continues to show his ignorance that goal oriented evolution like theories have been theorized tested and dismissed . Evolution  has not goals just gravity has no goals .


Do me a favor Tiz.
Tell me where you got that quote from and why don't you quote properly with the name of the person who wrote that.  Thanks

(April 26, 2018 at 10:04 am)JackRussell Wrote: Wash, rinse and repeat.

Still no clue what adults mean when they talk about evolution LR. And clearly no rational skepticism involved in your dogmatic adherence to your guru's absurd ideas.


If atheists keep on repeating the same dogmas such as.........the consciousness is a product of the brain.......death means 100% death even consciousness death...........there is no need for God because entropy can explain how the universe exist.......and so on that is why as you keep on floating in a sea of dogma I will have to intervene.  Lightbulb
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RE: Evolution
(April 26, 2018 at 9:43 am)Little Rik Wrote: [...]

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"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: Evolution
(April 26, 2018 at 10:13 am)Little Rik Wrote: If atheists keep on repeating the same dogmas such as.........the consciousness is a product of the brain.......death means 100% death even consciousness death...........there is no need for God because entropy can explain how the universe exist.......and so on that is why as you keep on floating in a sea of dogma I will have to intervene.  Lightbulb

"If the world is as the world is, then there's no need for my silly god!"   Rolleyes

Your foolish god dogmas are unnecessary regardless.  It's karma all the way down, and you can't prove it isn't.
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RE: Evolution
I wonder who the QUINTUPLE FOOL. will be?
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RE: Evolution
So just more mentally impotent raving from Little Dick 

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RE: Evolution
What I find astonishing in all of this is that LR professes to believe in karma, then promptly piles up negative karma by hurling insult at all and sundry.

That leaves few options. Either LR does not believe it himself, LR thinks he is exempt, or LR is nuts.

I leave it to the reader to pick.
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RE: Evolution
I can pick all three...right?  Wink
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RE: Evolution
(April 27, 2018 at 3:59 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I can pick all three...right?  Wink


Wrong. (again and again)


Karma only works when there is a clear intention to harm somebody.  Indubitably
That feeling of harming somebody stay in the mind for quite sometime willing or not willing.  Begging
That is not my case.
After few minutes that I leave the forum my mind is somewhere else.  Levitate
When I say.........you are a fool is like saying the same thing to someone that I see stealing something from a shop. Diablo
In my case it is like a warning to people who are entrenched in dogmas to get rid of that bad habit and all this has zero to do with karma.  Lightbulb
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