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Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
Who cares if she saw the light? It's still a light.

"Supernatural" is a meaningless drivel word. Anyone's opinion of what is and isn't "supernatural" is absolutely irrelevant until it's properly defined and then shown to be something real. This has never happened.

It's again just someone saying, "I don't know how to explain what I'm seeing". There's no further conclusion to be drawn. It can be a starting point for investigation, if there ever proves to be something to investigate. No one (sane) has ever claimed that our current models of reality are perfect.
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(March 9, 2018 at 8:12 am)robvalue Wrote: "Supernatural" is a meaningless drivel word.

Pfft, it means Sam and Dean.
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
(March 9, 2018 at 7:53 am)Huggy74 Wrote: I believe person that examined the negative used the term 'supernatural' im reference to the light, seeing how there was no explanation for the light being there...

Then you'd have to dismiss eyewitness testimony of a woman who says she saw a hovering light.

Light is not supernatural. It has many perfectly natural causes.
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It's as if someone with a time machine gained access to the internet from the turn of the century...and presents the compelling case of fairy photography as evidence of the supernatural.....

Will you be tapping on tables next, or showing us a jar of fluorescent ectoplasm?
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
(March 9, 2018 at 7:53 am)Huggy74 Wrote: I believe person that examined the negative used the term 'supernatural' im reference to the light, seeing how there was no explanation for the light being there...

If there's no explanation, then there's no explanation. Full stop. It's a logical contradiction to say there's no explanation, while simultaneously declaring the supernatural as an explanation.

But we do have an explanation anyway (Min did a great job of providing it). You just don't want the explanation to be true for understandable psychological reasons.

Quote:Then you'd have to dismiss eyewitness testimony of a woman who says she saw a hovering light.

There we go again with eyewitness testimony. As if eyewitness testimonies don't have a history of being unreliable, and as if studies have not at all shown that to be the case.

And suppose a woman did see a hovering light. So what? What's so supernatural about hovering light when I can just turn on a flashlight in a dark room and hover its light with ease?
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It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
(March 9, 2018 at 8:45 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(March 9, 2018 at 7:53 am)Huggy74 Wrote: I believe person that examined the negative used the term 'supernatural' im reference to the light, seeing how there was no explanation for the light being there...

Then you'd have to dismiss eyewitness testimony of a woman who says she saw a hovering light.

Light is not supernatural. It has many perfectly natural causes.

The issue is not the light, it's the behavior of the light.
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
(March 9, 2018 at 8:48 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Supernatural is a real word with a real definition.

So is bootylicious.
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