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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 10, 2018 at 8:31 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2018 at 8:32 pm by GrandizerII.)
We don't have any evidence for God whatsoever, so how you even think to argue that it is the best explanation of whatever phenomenon it is you're trying to address? What does it even mean for God (or anything else) to be "immaterial" or "supernatural" or "spiritual" (still didn't get a clear answer on this)? Sorry, but just can't take this "God explanation" seriously, because it's not well-defined and not evident at all; it's just mumbo-jumbo talk.
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 11, 2018 at 6:38 am
(March 10, 2018 at 9:22 am)SteveII Wrote: (March 9, 2018 at 2:29 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: 1: So god is made from nothing. Do you know what else is made from nothing? all non-existent things.
3: God is not a good explanation for the universe. It would pose more questions than it answers.
4: I see you don't like details, how did an immaterial being (whatever that is) create the universe?
6: none of what you put leads to that conclusion.
First, the syllogism is airtight and I gave reasons at the end of each line.
1. I did not say 'nothing'. Words and their definitions are important. Look up words if you can't understand them.
3. If God exists, he is an excellent explanation of the universe. This is not a point you are going to win. There is no debate here.
4. 'How' is unknowable. See my answer to Mister Agenda above.
You think that since the argument contains the notion of God, there must be something wrong with it. Actually, many of you seem to think this way. That is simply not true and trying to pick an argument apart based on that shows you are in over your head.
1: So what is god made of?
3: In the extremely unlikely event that there is a "god" (whatever that is), why would its mere existence explain the universe, you have to put more effort into it than that.
4: So you have decided on perpetual ignorance.
What argument?
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 11, 2018 at 6:50 am
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Any aspects which can't be explained are unknowable. Imagine if science worked like that.
How can we ever possibly know something is unknowable, exactly?
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 11, 2018 at 8:50 am
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2018 at 8:50 am by LadyForCamus.)
I guess Huggy is just going to blow past the fact that Min demolished his precious, ‘reliable’ eye-witness account of the supernatural light. By his OWN admission, that was the only thing he had that placed Christianity ahead of Odinism, and now it’s gone.
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