Easter, Bloody Easter!

[chimp3]

What is more sinister about the Christian narrative is that they try to place the blame of this torture murder on us. Us, living today! We are responsible! Just because we like certain sexual practices or because we failed in our youth to set aside self gratification for a higher goal.

We, alive today are responsible for a murder that occurred 2000 years ago: https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/all-be...esus-death

What a heinous concept. A mother taking out her revenge on her son because his father was abusive would still be considered child abuse by today's standards. I do not see the difference.

Fuck that shit!

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My favorite quote against the idea of vicarious redemption is from comedian Doug Stanhope :

“I don't even understand the connection with 'died for your sins'. He died for your sin, well, how does one affect the other? 'I hit myself in the foot with a shovel for your mortgage'...”

[Wyrd of Gawd]

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The Romans are only the scapegoats and so was Judas. The plan all along was to have him tortured and murdered. Prophecies from the Old testament. Your own words "His willingness to die for us". The speech in the garden of Gesthemane.  Jesus was not a victim of the Romans, he volunteered. The sick narrative that the Jews killed him led to millions of Jewish deaths. There is so much sickness in this myth.

CL, you might not be sadistic , but this is a sadistic story. Call it what you want.

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Excellent Boy!

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He didnt stop it from happening, as He could have, since He is God. That doesn't mean the people who did it weren't acting on free will and thus fully responsible for the evil deed. (It also doesn't mean that it's ok to kill other people after the fact who had nothing to do with it just because they are of the same religion as some of the people who did. This goes without saying.)

I don't see it as a story of sadism at all, and neither is that the intended Christian message of the story. The story is of self giving love, and dying for the sake of saving other people. You personally may take it as sadism, but that isn't the intended message being protrayed whatsoever.

Anyway, I'm glad you don't think we are sadistic. Thats good. I'm also glad I was able to clear up the misconception you had that Easter is the celebration of His death. Hopefully other things have been cleared up too.

If a person believes in a deity it's generally stupid to die for the sake of saving other people.  After all, the deity wanted them dead for its own purpose which is why their lives were put in jeopardy in the first place.

The story about Yeshua being a sacrifice for your sins is actually against biblical teachings.  In the old days the Yahweh character told the dummies that they had to sacrifice their first borns. He said that the reason he did that was to show the dummies that it was a stupid thing for them to do and that they should have told him to shove it up his butt.  

Paul cooked up the human sacrifice theme as a way to sell his resurrection religion.  The resurrection belief was imported from the East and was never discussed in the Old Testament except for some long dead bones being reanimated.  

Which group of people benefits the most from dummies believing in their silly ethnocentric religious fairy tales?  Most of the persistent theists on the forums are probably their agents who constantly reinforce the idea that the dummies can be saved and get eternal life if they they believe in a magical zombie.  Consequently such beliefs influence our domestic and international affairs, mostly to our own disadvantage.  

Hell, even the Bible says that a dummy shouldn't believe in silly Jewish fairy tales.  Are there any that are not silly?

[Succubus]

Lol, Ester is not the celebration of Jesus' death. Easter is His resurrection.

Jesus' death is remembered 2 days earlier on Good Friday, and it certainly is not a "celebration." It's a somber day where we are supposed to go to church, not eat meat, not party, and just have a quiet day remembering what Jesus went through.

Quelle surprise. Now that the raging battles on the subject of Christian doctrine and dogma has quieted down somewhat you now grace us with this wisdom. What a shame you couldn't support your colleagues   in the dogfight.



There no Catholics in foxholes.

[chimp3]

So if the Easter is proved to be a pagan ritual, how many of Christian laws are in fact; pagan laws?

Yes! Then we are left with pondering that flying horses and making circles around black stones is not pagan?

[WinterHold]

So if the Easter is proved to be a pagan ritual, how many of Christian laws are in fact; pagan laws?

Yes! Then we are left with pondering that flying horses and making circles around black stones is not pagan?

Yes; the flying horse story is a Hadith; probably and mostly a pagan fairy tale that got Islamized.
As of rotating the Ka'aba, it is never said to be a ritual of the pagans of Arabia. It belonged to the teachings of Abraham peace be upon him, and Abraham had nothing to do with the pagan Gods.

I don't know why Christian pagan twists are being applied on Islam; while in reality it's only the Hadith that contain links to the pagan faiths in Arabia.
I can bet that you never studied and compare the Quran with the Bible seriously before posting..

The flying horse has no mention in the Quran. It is only mentioned by Sunni and Shiite folklore.
Folklore is  not religion. Hadiths are not Islam.

[chimp3]

Yes! Then we are left with pondering that flying horses and making circles around black stones is not pagan?

Yes; the flying horse story is a Hadith; probably and mostly a pagan fairy tale that got Islamized.
As of rotating the Ka'aba, it is never said to be a ritual of the pagans of Arabia. It belonged to the teachings of Abraham peace be upon him, and Abraham had nothing to do with the pagan Gods.

I don't know why Christian pagan twists are being applied on Islam; while in reality it's only the Hadith that contain links to the pagan faiths in Arabia.
I can bet that you never studied and compare the Quran with the Bible seriously before posting..

The flying horse has no mention in the Quran. It is only mentioned by Sunni and Shiite folklore.
Folklore is  not religion. Hadiths are not Islam.

Oh yes! I await trembling waiting for the "true" Islam! I can not wait to be bored into submission!

[WinterHold]

Yes; the flying horse story is a Hadith; probably and mostly a pagan fairy tale that got Islamized.
As of rotating the Ka'aba, it is never said to be a ritual of the pagans of Arabia. It belonged to the teachings of Abraham peace be upon him, and Abraham had nothing to do with the pagan Gods.

I don't know why Christian pagan twists are being applied on Islam; while in reality it's only the Hadith that contain links to the pagan faiths in Arabia.
I can bet that you never studied and compare the Quran with the Bible seriously before posting..

The flying horse has no mention in the Quran. It is only mentioned by Sunni and Shiite folklore.
Folklore is  not religion. Hadiths are not Islam.

Oh yes! I await trembling waiting for the "true" Islam! I can not wait to be bored into submission!

Math is boring. But we shouldn't speak about it if we don't know its laws.
Same goes with anything else: we shouldn't criticize before we make a full analysis of what the heck we're talking about.

Boring or exciting, it doesn't matter, but left isn't right, and saying that war is peace is pure blasphemy.

[downbeatplumb]

Once again, Christians are preparing to celebrate the torture and murder of Jesus and thank him for submitting to this blood sacrifice. I, for one, find this event and its religious meaning heinous in its entirety.

The idea that a father would torture and murder his own son because the neighbors kids misbehaved is deplorable.

The idea that someone who has committed a crime against me is now forgiven by a third party. I am a forgiving, easy going person and I reserve that right to myself. To hell what some mythical scapegoat has to say about it.


Believing that a murder victim rose from the dead asks of me to be a gullible fool. Believing he flew up into the clouds is silly.


Then, the closing act of the Christian narrative will have this celestial zombie returning with a vengeance. All of the hard earned accomplishments of humanity destroyed. All suffering death except "true" Christians. Then the establishment of a necrocracy. One in which the only requirement of what is left of humanity will be to worship their king without ceasing. This is the apocalypse story I grew up with. Silly predictions about getting microchip implants or tattoos with the number 666. Silly tales like the "Left Behind" book series.

Perhaps I am cynical, but for sheer horror show imagery this fairy tale beats anything the Brothers Grimm or Stephen King dreamed up.

You Christians can celebrate your favorite horror fiction. I, for one, will be celebrating springtime this April Fools Day. Blooming trees, songbirds making chicks, Irises.

Sod Easter I am already readying my war on Christmas. THIS YEAR VICTORY.

[Ravenshire]

Once again, Christians are preparing to celebrate the torture and murder of Jesus and thank him for submitting to this blood sacrifice. I, for one, find this event and its religious meaning heinous in its entirety.

The idea that a father would torture and murder his own son because the neighbors kids misbehaved is deplorable.

The idea that someone who has committed a crime against me is now forgiven by a third party. I am a forgiving, easy going person and I reserve that right to myself. To hell what some mythical scapegoat has to say about it.


Believing that a murder victim rose from the dead asks of me to be a gullible fool. Believing he flew up into the clouds is silly.


Then, the closing act of the Christian narrative will have this celestial zombie returning with a vengeance. All of the hard earned accomplishments of humanity destroyed. All suffering death except "true" Christians. Then the establishment of a necrocracy. One in which the only requirement of what is left of humanity will be to worship their king without ceasing. This is the apocalypse story I grew up with. Silly predictions about getting microchip implants or tattoos with the number 666. Silly tales like the "Left Behind" book series.

Perhaps I am cynical, but for sheer horror show imagery this fairy tale beats anything the Brothers Grimm or Stephen King dreamed up.

You Christians can celebrate your favorite horror fiction. I, for one, will be celebrating springtime this April Fools Day. Blooming trees, songbirds making chicks, Irises.

Sod Easter I am already readying my war on Christmas. THIS YEAR VICTORY.

We've got your back!

[Astreja]

How are you gentlemen! All your Easter are belong to us.

This is a public service announcement by the Goddess of the Spring Equinox, who much prefers bunny rabbits and chocolate to the Christian hijacking of Her holiday.