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Poll: gay adoption
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#21
RE: gay adoption
I have nothing against guy couples adopting children. I have a substantial amount against fundamentalist couples adopting children, however.
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#22
RE: gay adoption
(November 18, 2010 at 12:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Voted "against" mainly because I'm feeling ornery today.

Actually, that's the most coherent (and honest) argument against gay adoption that I've ever heard.
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#23
RE: gay adoption
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#24
RE: gay adoption
(November 18, 2010 at 1:17 am)ib.me.ub Wrote: Against.

In terms of what is good for the child, having gay parents, both being male, or both being female, I don't beleive it would be good for the childs psychology. If I put myself in the childs shoes for just one moment, I would not like to have gay parents. Let alone the ridicule the child would receive at school etc, I also beleive they could have an adverse psychological reaction.

So, thinking of the child (what having children is all about) and putting the other two individuals aside, I am against.

If there are no stigmas against homosexuals then there will be no psychological effects of having gay parents any more than there will be by having parents with rainbow coloured mohawks.

A child is bound to take some notice of any stigmas against their parents, and are likely to be harassed for the fact of their parents sexuality which will in fact cause "psychological harm", but that is also the case for the children of parents with rainbow coloured mohawks.

If the parent has trait x and trait x is disliked by a minority of the population, is it therefore bad for parents with trait x to have children because of the stigma of the population? To me it does not follow that someone else's dislike of x becomes justification for those who like x being able to have children. Most obvious is the fact that it is no fault of the parent that they are gay, nor is it their fault for wanting to have a family as both personality traits are very much natural.

There is also no evidence of homosexuality being harmful to children in and of it's self.

Also, Your whole *putting myself in their shoes* is biased, you are already prejudiced against gays.
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#25
RE: gay adoption
(November 18, 2010 at 1:17 am)ib.me.ub Wrote: Against.

In terms of what is good for the child, having gay parents, both being male, or both being female, I don't beleive it would be good for the childs psychology. If I put myself in the childs shoes for just one moment, I would not like to have gay parents. Let alone the ridicule the child would receive at school etc, I also beleive they could have an adverse psychological reaction.

So, thinking of the child (what having children is all about) and putting the other two individuals aside, I am against.

Try having a straight parent who is abusive, racist, bigoted, and an asshole in general. In public. Endure physical and emotional abuse in secret for years and spend half your public life in complete and utter embarrassment and shame as that parent loudly proclaims his asinine views about other races and cultures.

I had two straight parents...and I was still ridiculed at school for one's behavior. Believe me...it would have been easier to come home to two loving gay parents after that than to dread going home to face more bullshit in what should have been my safezone.
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#26
RE: gay adoption
(November 18, 2010 at 4:56 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(November 18, 2010 at 12:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Voted "against" mainly because I'm feeling ornery today.

Actually, that's the most coherent (and honest) argument against gay adoption that I've ever heard.

;-). What fun would it be if everyone agreed!
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#27
RE: gay adoption
Chuck Wrote:I have nothing against guy couples adopting children. I have a substantial amount against fundamentalist couples adopting children, however.

Better that they adopt than that they breed even more of the things...

thesummerqueen Wrote:Try having a straight parent who is abusive, racist, bigoted, and an asshole in general. In public. Endure physical and emotional abuse in secret for years and spend half your public life in complete and utter embarrassment and shame as that parent loudly proclaims his asinine views about other races and cultures.

There's rather the potential that the parent possessing these beliefs will pass them onto whatever children they have great enough influence upon. :S
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#28
RE: gay adoption
Quote: thesummerqueen Wrote:Try having a straight parent who is abusive, racist, bigoted, and an asshole in general. In public. Endure physical and emotional abuse in secret for years and spend half your public life in complete and utter embarrassment and shame as that parent loudly proclaims his asinine views about other races and cultures.


Ah, I wasn't aware you knew my late father. (I'm kidding;he wasn't physically abusive)

As a child and teenager, I just thought he was a bully and a dead cunt. When he was 70,he was finally diagnosed with PTSD (WW2)That changed my opinion of him. I then saw him as a bully and dead cunt with PTSD.Thinking
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#29
RE: gay adoption
I voted for gay adoption because I don't have any reason to conclude that gay couples are inherantly better or worse than straight couples.

I feel the same way about single parents.
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#30
RE: gay adoption
(November 17, 2010 at 10:03 pm)Shell B Wrote: I voted for because there wasn't a "It depends on the parenting skills of the adoptive parents" button.

Yes. And if the question was "should anyone be allowed to adopt?" would your answer be the same, or do you think you'd just give a general "yes" since the fact it depends on the skills of the adoptive parents is unmentionably obvious and no less obvious if the parents are homosexual?
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