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Ask a Secular Humanist!
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RE: Ask a Secular Humanist!
(March 18, 2018 at 4:10 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(March 18, 2018 at 4:08 pm)chimp3 Wrote: We have made progress. Life is learning. We have to learn from our mistakes and advocate for improvements.

Agreed. But we have to learn real fast before the world agrees on world government and we hand the world to people who will ensue more chaos than order, more injustice then justice.

And I fear we are lazy and taking this too lightly.  I wish we all urge each other on this dialogue to learn thoroughly this issue and participate in it.

I am not a fan of governments or politicians. I also am not a fan of preachers, popes, mullahs or anyone else espousing that the bronze age has much to offer us today. Progress is made by individuals generating good ideas and then groups of individuals supporting the good ideas.
"The self must have a healthy relationship to itself if it is going to relate well with others. An identity that is either missing or weak prohibits any kind of ethics. Only the force of an I authorizes the mobilization of morality." - Michel Onfray









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#22
RE: Ask a Secular Humanist!
(March 18, 2018 at 3:59 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(March 18, 2018 at 3:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: What does the Human Genome project have to do with secularism? Isn't that just studying and mapping out genetics?
Yes! That qualifies. Science is an approach to knowledge that only takes into consideration what exists in physical reality. A major facet of secular humanism.

I mean, it's 2 different fields. Science is the study of the physical world around us. That doesn't mean the person who studies the world can't also go to church on sundays and believe in God. "Secular humanism", based on your definition, sounds like it actually opposes belief in God.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#23
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Secular humanism doesn't include god concepts.

Theistic humanism includes humanist ideas but with a god.

Read a humanist website and insert your personal beliefs.

We can live together; I just wish you would lose the unnecessary component.
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#24
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(March 18, 2018 at 4:29 pm)JackRussell Wrote: Secular humanism doesn't include god concepts.

Theistic humanism includes humanist ideas but with a god.

Read a humanist website and insert your personal beliefs.

We can live together; I just wish you would lose the unnecessary component.

Why? I mean, why does it make a difference to you if I go to church for one hour once a week, say a prayer before bedtime, and believe in God?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#25
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True dat!

I really don't mind.

I am visiting the Neasden Hindu Temple with my Hindu friends next weekend to celebrate a 6 year anniversary of a successful heart and lung transplant.

My problem is the religious trying to insert their beliefs in law.
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#26
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(March 18, 2018 at 4:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(March 18, 2018 at 3:59 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Yes! That qualifies. Science is an approach to knowledge that only takes into consideration what exists in physical reality. A major facet of secular humanism.

I mean, it's 2 different fields. Science is the study of the physical world around us. That doesn't mean the person who studies the world can't also go to church on sundays and believe in God. "Secular humanism", based on your definition, sounds like it actually opposes belief in God.

No! Only in that we seek earthly solutions to earthly problems. A believer can join in an earthly approach to a problem - such as finding a cure for a disease - then go to church a pray for gods help. On an earlier thread you mentioned Lemaitre and the Big Bang. I would also include Martin Luther King. He advocated for changing minds, laws, and morality. He did not advocate for angels coming to our rescue. His "letter from a Birmingham Jail" is one of the greatest humanist treatise ever written:

https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Ge...ngham.html
"The self must have a healthy relationship to itself if it is going to relate well with others. An identity that is either missing or weak prohibits any kind of ethics. Only the force of an I authorizes the mobilization of morality." - Michel Onfray









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#27
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I still can't wrap my head around the idea of being invested in 8 billion other organisms because we share the same species classification.
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#28
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I like that.
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
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#29
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As a secular humanist - and speaking only as a secular humanist - what do you usually have for breakfast?

Boru
'A man is accepted into a church for what he believes.  He is turned out for what he knows.' - Mark Twain
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#30
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(March 18, 2018 at 6:00 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: As a secular humanist - and speaking only as a secular humanist - what do you usually have for breakfast?

Boru

Bird eggs!
"The self must have a healthy relationship to itself if it is going to relate well with others. An identity that is either missing or weak prohibits any kind of ethics. Only the force of an I authorizes the mobilization of morality." - Michel Onfray









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