Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Sorry, but your diversion won't work. You posted the OP in order to get an argument started about your girl-child fucking spiritual leader.

That doesn't answer the standards of the proof I need; sorry.

Of course it doesn't. We would have to produce a flying horse for you to dain to answer anything.

[WinterHold]

Don't accuse without a proof. The proof must be:
1-Explicit verses from the Quran that encourage child marriage
2-Explicit verses from the Bible that negate the verses in my OP.

Otherwise; you're the one trolling; Sama.

Bullshit.

Stop making this about your religion and your holy book. 

BACK THEN, WORLDWIDE children were considered property, chattel, especially females. 

You can see patriarchal sexism throughout human history in every religion. Pockets of it still exist today, IN EVERY RELIGION.

For the same reason the Taliban forces women to wear tents, right wing Orthodox Jews have refused to sit next to females on airplanes. For the same reason conservative Hindus expect their daughters to marry the person they pick for her. BULLSHIT SEXISM.

Your holy book is not a cure all for humanity, it is simply something you buy into. 

If your alleged deity really wanted to make things clear, doesn't seem to me he had done a good job of it. Your deity can't be that "all powerful" if it needs you to make arguments for it.

Islam for forbade Muslims from having sex without marriage.
For any contract to be legally justified in Islam -and marriage is one of the contracts-, the person must be at or above puberty.

This concept was alien to non-Muslims before the modern era, but it was a religious sentence in every Muslims society, enforced by the Quran.

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It is funny when you see an Abrahamic religion atacking it's sister , seriously Christianaty and Islam have the same core, Judaism.
@Atlass, criticizing the OT is criticizing Islam.

Verses that prove that from the Quran as I asked.

[notimportant1234]

Bullshit.

Stop making this about your religion and your holy book. 

BACK THEN, WORLDWIDE children were considered property, chattel, especially females. 

You can see patriarchal sexism throughout human history in every religion. Pockets of it still exist today, IN EVERY RELIGION.

For the same reason the Taliban forces women to wear tents, right wing Orthodox Jews have refused to sit next to females on airplanes. For the same reason conservative Hindus expect their daughters to marry the person they pick for her. BULLSHIT SEXISM.

Your holy book is not a cure all for humanity, it is simply something you buy into. 

If your alleged deity really wanted to make things clear, doesn't seem to me he had done a good job of it. Your deity can't be that "all powerful" if it needs you to make arguments for it.

Islam for forbade Muslims from having sex without marriage.
For any contract to be legally justified in Islam -and marriage is one of the contracts-, the person must be at or above puberty.

This concept was alien to non-Muslims before the modern era, but it was a religious sentence in every Muslims society, enforced by the Quran.

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It is funny when you see an Abrahamic religion atacking it's sister , seriously Christianaty and Islam have the same core, Judaism.
@Atlass, criticizing the OT is criticizing Islam.

Verses that prove that from the Quran as I asked.

You are talking about a verse, I'm talking about the entire thing.
If that is the case, nothing enslaves women better than the Quaran.
Edit: The Bible also says that you shouldn't have sex out of marriage .Does that makes any statement about the age of the bride ? No.

[WinterHold]

Islam for forbade Muslims from having sex without marriage.
For any contract to be legally justified in Islam -and marriage is one of the contracts-, the person must be at or above puberty.

This concept was alien to non-Muslims before the modern era, but it was a religious sentence in every Muslims society, enforced by the Quran.

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Verses that prove that from the Quran as I asked.

You are talking about a verse, I'm talking about the entire thing.
If that is the case, nothing enslaves women better than the Quaran.
Edit: The Bible also says that you shouldn't have sex out of marriage .Does that makes any statement about the age of the bride ? No.

No. It is making the Bible a "contradictory book" that contains verses that allows"believers" to do whatever they like to children, in an obvious sexual context; and others that forbid them from even having sex to women in the first place.

Where are the Quranic verses, that advocate something similar? that in case we wanted to bash the Quran to defend the bible.
Otherwise; the op is not about a comparison between the two books; even.

[The Grand Nudger]

You're confusing the ability of man to justify or denounce whatever it is we want to by reference to any magic book for some attribute of magic books.  As if one magic book could prevent that and another magic book could not.  

You, as a magic book worshipper...fully realize this and insist -every time- that so and so whom you disagree with is doing magic book wrong.  This is exactly what the other magic book worshippers say.   Ironically, it's yet another demonstration of that ability of man, up above.

[notimportant1234]

You are talking about a verse, I'm talking about the entire thing.
If that is the case, nothing enslaves women better than the Quaran.
Edit: The Bible also says that you shouldn't have sex out of marriage .Does that makes any statement about the age of the bride ? No.

No. It is making the Bible a "contradictory book" that contains verses that allows"believers" to do whatever they like to children, in an obvious sexual context; and others that forbid them from even having sex to women in the first place.

Where are the Quranic verses, that advocate something similar? that in case we wanted to bash the Quran to defend the bible.
Otherwise; the op is not about a comparison between the two books; even.

Again with the OT ,the Quaran comes from the OT. That is what I'm trying to point out.

[Brian37]

Bullshit.

Stop making this about your religion and your holy book. 

BACK THEN, WORLDWIDE children were considered property, chattel, especially females. 

You can see patriarchal sexism throughout human history in every religion. Pockets of it still exist today, IN EVERY RELIGION.

For the same reason the Taliban forces women to wear tents, right wing Orthodox Jews have refused to sit next to females on airplanes. For the same reason conservative Hindus expect their daughters to marry the person they pick for her. BULLSHIT SEXISM.

Your holy book is not a cure all for humanity, it is simply something you buy into. 

If your alleged deity really wanted to make things clear, doesn't seem to me he had done a good job of it. Your deity can't be that "all powerful" if it needs you to make arguments for it.

Islam for forbade Muslims from having sex without marriage.
For any contract to be legally justified in Islam -and marriage is one of the contracts-, the person must be at or above puberty.

This concept was alien to non-Muslims before the modern era, but it was a religious sentence in every Muslims society, enforced by the Quran.

---

It is funny when you see an Abrahamic religion atacking it's sister , seriously Christianaty and Islam have the same core, Judaism.
@Atlass, criticizing the OT is criticizing Islam.

Verses that prove that from the Quran as I asked.

Atlass, that is YOUR modern interpretation. 

Puberty does not mean over 18. Puberty means for females their first period. Girls have their periods long before the age of 18. 

BACK THEN in most of antiquity WORLDWIDE girls were bartered between families 

Child brides were very common in antiquity. Your ignoring that doesn't change that fact.

[Edwardo Piet]

People who worship glass paedophile prophets shouldn't throw stones.

The Bible is an absolutely vile book, you'll get no argument here. But I'm wondering if you've ever read the Quran. By my estimation, it's even worse. I don't know how anyone can defend either.

From what I hear the Quran is much worse than the New Testament but not as bad as the Old Testament.

But modern Christians don't take the Old Testament very seriously or literally... and even the Jews don't follow the vile stuff in the Old Testament literally. If they did all Jews would be murderous barbarians lol.

The difference is... despite the Quran not being quite as bad as the Old Testament there are many Muslims who take it all literally as the Quran is a newer book and hasn't yet been "modernized". Modernized meaning not actually believing in 99% of it lol.

Also, it's important to note not quite as bad as the old testament is a very low bar.

Moderates be like "WTF you actually believe this shit in the Bible? It's mostly stories."

Fundie be like "Yeah I do."

Moderate be like "Well, at least you believe. Here, have more freedom to force your religion on others."

Muslim fundie be like "KILL THE INFIDELS!"

Muslim moderate be like "That's a bit too far. This is 2018. You're only supposed to kill apostates nowadays."

Enough muslim jokes. I hear the Hadith is worse than the Quran and the most extreme muslims tend to follow the Hadith a lot but not all muslims do.

[The Grand Nudger]

On the subject of taking captives for sexual slavery both magic books are equal.  God's cool with it.

[Edwardo Piet]

Yeah. I think the Old Testament just goes into a lot more graphic detail about many many fucked up things and punishments.

Ironically, even the most barbaric people nowadays can't take all that seriously.